11-10-2003 00:43									#31
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I think they are cloning him... What are we going to do in 100 years when Castro is like 180 y.o. and still walking around?... Someone should do a spoof of Weekend at Bernies (as if it would be a spoof), and have Castro... uh, nevermind.

	11-10-2003 01:02									#32
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What have the Cubans ever done to you anyway to deserve such hate?

I bet lifting your silly little embargo would actually make Cuba capitalist quicker too...

Not to mention the US is defying UN resolutions in keeping up the embargo.

Let's invade the US!

	11-10-2003 01:04									#33
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quote: What have the Cubans ever done to you anyway to deserve such hate?

Yeah, I guess stockpiling weapons/missles for our enemies isn;t anything... Nor is their infiltration of MLB

	11-10-2003 01:05									#34
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Oh, and I don't hate Cuban's, I hate Castro...

	11-10-2003 01:05									#35
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Fidel's a murdering *******, but he does have an endearing sense of style, and anyone who's spent 45 years 100 miles from the US, with both middle fingers raised, yelling "Se come mierda!" can't be all bad.

Fidel is not a murdering ********.

Anyway, if there were free elections he'd still win. The Cubans love him.

	11-10-2003 01:10									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Fidel is not a murdering ********. Anyway, if there were free elections he'd still win. The Cubans love him.

Yes, they're coming over in rafts and makeshift boats to attempt to infiltrate the capitalist pigdogs in Florida

	11-10-2003 01:11									#37
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Lets get the poster known as "Gepap" as the leader of Cuba. He got experience of being a dictator in a small latin american country and has CIA training.

	11-10-2003 01:19									#38
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Michael, you jackass. It's Cuban's in Miami that are so hot to oust Castro. How many truckboats are headed Cuba's direction? Do you see Che breaking his hump to get there? No, to both inquiries. So ram it!

Actually, a lot of younger Cubanos in Miami are more concerned with flashing their gold chains and driving their Beemer convertibles like hell in the Little Havana district, parking on the sidewalks and pretending to be little badasses.

If Cubans in Miami are so hot to oust Castro, let 'em. The US didn't give a rat's ass about Cubans hot to oust that murdering little ****er Batista - mostly because Batista would sell off any Cuban asset to US companies as long as he and his wife each got 10% of the action.

So if the US didn't give a **** then, why should I give a **** now?

	11-10-2003 01:20									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Oh, and I don't hate Cuban's, I hate Castro...

Some people are in the dark, Japher.

No one here has made any derogatory statements about Cubans.



Castro sucks goats.

	11-10-2003 01:23									#40
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Where's GePap?

	11-10-2003 01:23									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Fidel is not a murdering ********.

I guess you call that "revolutionary justice"

quote: Anyway, if there were free elections he'd still win. The Cubans love him.

45 years of no alternate political parties allowed, government monopoly on news and information, government monopoly on education, of course the people "love" him - they've been trained to.

And Fidelito might "win" in a figurehead sense, but given real alternatives (you don't see the rest of Latinamerica and the Caribbean rushing to embrace Castroite socialism), Fidelito's party and Raul and the whole system of government would go down in flames.

	11-10-2003 01:31									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Where's GePap?

I've not seen him in a couple.

	11-10-2003 01:56									#43
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Yes, they're coming over in rafts and makeshift boats to attempt to infiltrate the capitalist pigdogs in Florida

Oh yes, you've proved that the communsit isystem is all wrong. So, uhm, what about all them Mexicans running through the Sonora desert dying of dehydration? What about all them Haitians piling onto makeshift boats . . . ah **** it. People trying to go to a richer country is only an indictment when the poor country is communist, right? If it's a capitalist country, then it doesn't really count.

	11-10-2003 01:57									#44
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat I guess you call that "revolutionary justice"

Considering who got killed, yes I would.

	11-10-2003 02:18									#45
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Considering who got killed, yes I would.

So list them and their "crimes"

Or is whatever is done in the name of "revolution" and "communism" right?

That there were some murderous scumbags who deserved a date in front of a wall is obvious.

That all, or even a majority, of "judicial" (to the extent you could dignify it with the name) or extrajudicial killings that took place before, during and after the revolution were limited to the above mentioned murderous scumbags is far from obvious.

	11-10-2003 02:24									#46
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There is little difference between Castro and Hussein.

	11-10-2003 02:39									#47
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Yeah the US can't catch or kill either of them

	11-10-2003 02:45									#48
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Castro
Bush

	11-10-2003 02:48									#49
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They can, now. Before, assassination was frowned upon.

	11-10-2003 03:07									#50
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand There is little difference between Castro and Hussein.

Actually, there's a hell of a lot of differences, but for a lot of Americans and their sophisticated sence of furrin' police-y, they just might not be able to see them, or care to. After all, when the whole 3rd world is yours to **** with for amusement, who cares?

	11-10-2003 03:12									#51
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Castro is awesome leader and personality. Theres some dark sides of his cuba too but in generally it's far more humane/good that america is to its citizens

	11-10-2003 03:23									#52
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Oh yes, you've proved that the communsit isystem is all wrong. So, uhm, what about all them Mexicans running through the Sonora desert dying of dehydration? What about all them Haitians piling onto makeshift boats . . . ah **** it. People trying to go to a richer country is only an indictment when the poor country is communist, right? If it's a capitalist country, then it doesn't really count.

When did I prove Communism wrong? I said that Cubans didn't love Castro like Ag said.

Sheesh

	11-10-2003 03:32									#53
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You want to make it easier for dissident Cubans to reach the US? Does anyone here remember the boat people fiasco a couple of decades back? God knows, this time he'll probably pack the boats with al-Queda wannabes with phony papers.

	11-10-2003 03:33									#54
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Now Michael, don't go getting your panties in a wad.
I didn't say anything about Fox.
My point, which I stand behind, is Hussein and Castro are both murderous bastards.

	11-10-2003 04:05									#55
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"Were is gepap"?

Gainfully employed and exploited by the Council of the City of New York, that is where.

Oh, and regardless of the vicious lies kropotkin is spreading, I am not currently in a Miami prison....

This "announcement" is , well, meaningless. Make it easier for dissidents to leave? Anyone here think castro has a problem with that? As for making it harder for Americans to travel there..first, anyone who wants will still make it through Mexico, and the Cubans don;t stamp passports, so maybe it will deter a small amount of people. All in all, a vote-pandering stunt.

As for Castro..the average Cuban probalby does not love him..but most of them have lived their entire lives under him, and they would NOT back a coup or so: the communist party still does have substantial (htough not majority) support. When he dies, or decides to give up power due to old age (the former is more likely, but the later could always happen), i am sure there will be a lot of grief outpouring in cuba, if only becuase he has been a symbol of the country for 40 years. I don;t think communist party rule will outlast him though. Elections will have to follow.

	11-10-2003 06:54									#56
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It's good to see that Bush, Powell, and co. are outlining some ideas for what to do when Castro's gone -- hopefully they've learned their lessons (re: not planning for the aftermath) from Iraq.

However, it's tiresome to see them working the same half-century-old methods of trying to remove Castro from power. All the embargos and travel restrictions have done is to give Fidel even more authority with the Cubans, who are subject to further poverty and lack of improvements in quality of life.

Progress is a fatal enemy of communism and dictatorships. Sure, we can let Cuba remain in its never-ending 1950s lifestyle, or we can let our culture and our technology change Cuba and present itself as a threat to Castro.

	11-10-2003 07:01									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Anyway, if there were free elections he'd still win. The Cubans love him.

Is that why he put so many road blocks in front of the Varela Project? Let's not forget the various political dissidents he's thrown in jail for little more than expressing thier opinion.

	11-10-2003 07:38									#58
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Is that why he put so many road blocks in front of the Varela Project? Let's not forget the various political dissidents he's thrown in jail for little more than expressing thier opinion.

If Cuba allowed "free" elections the US would give tons of mony to the rightist parties and let the Cuban-American terrorists beat up Castro supporters, basically Contra episode 2.

The only reason there are travel restrictions is that the corporate elite don't want people discovering that the propaganda they are feeding people is BS. Most of those "political dissidents" are probably conected to the Cuban-American terrorists in Miami.

	11-10-2003 07:44									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Odin If Cuba allowed "free" elections the US would give tons of mony to the rightist parties and let the Cuban-American terrorists beat up Castro supporters, basically Contra episode 2.

Like I said. Commies want a dictatorship because they are afraid of democracy.

	11-10-2003 08:00									#60
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Like I said. Commies want a dictatorship because they are afraid of democracy.

You call voter intimidation democracy?