15-01-2004 04:00									#211
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Agreed. Personal dislikes mustn´t interfere with the state´s interests.

	15-01-2004 04:30									#212
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What? Is that a threat?
Well then I suggest you pronounce Vendetta and be done with it, for I'm scarcely (sp?) intimidated.

	15-01-2004 08:48									#213
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Any threat to the stability of the Hive should be squashed.

	15-01-2004 13:03									#214
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I am concerned in regards to this, several individuals have expressed reservations about Enigma Nova’s actions in regards to CyCon diplomacy, action must be taken to curtain this. Ideally I would like to see the only diplomatic channel be the official ones, if anyone has anything to say to us they can do it officially and vice versa. We hardly need any more confusion and disarray.

	15-01-2004 15:12									#215
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True.

Enigma, you shouldn´t take anything in here too serious
Just don´t spoil all of our diplomacy, we have to hold up a smiling face while preparing for war. Otherwise it wouldn´t be a surprise when our armies fall out of the skies...

	15-01-2004 16:15									#216
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Micha: There's no set definition of 'good' and 'bad' so you can't tell whether reformation is 'good' or 'bad' for the state.
It's a change, and nothing more.
Just say you fight for stability... makes more sense that way.

Franky: What makes you value Stability? Is there not a reason we pursue Adaptive econ and Adaptive doctrine?
To be static is to be as a rock. Gives your enemy a nice solid target to hit.

quote: Originally posted by Micha Enigma, you shouldn´t take anything in here too serious

Would you hold it against me if I did?

quote: we have to hold up a smiling face while preparing for war.

Enigma leers angrily at everyone

quote: Otherwise it wouldn´t be a surprise when our armies fall out of the skies...

Our enemies aren't stupid.
They'll see the MMI. They'll see where we're going.
They'll throw up aero complexes like no-one's business.

	15-01-2004 21:39									#217
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It is one thing if our enemy is not stupid. It is an entirely different thing to tell them all of our not even finalized plan. Because that means we are stupid.

	15-01-2004 22:20									#218
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quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova What? Is that a threat? Well then I suggest you pronounce Vendetta and be done with it, for I'm scarcely (sp?) intimidated.

Yes it is a threat. If you decide you want to be stupid then I WILL pronounce Vendetta against you for your own sake.

	16-01-2004 10:11									#219
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So who do we fight first - the CyCon or each-other?

	16-01-2004 11:43									#220
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quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova So who do we fight first - the CyCon or each-other?

Each other Your god needs some entertainment.

	16-01-2004 16:41									#221
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Care to get involved, Comrade Tassadar?

	16-01-2004 20:14									#222
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Say you want to be stupid. Then I will fight you. Timing is unimportant. I take up a fight any time.

	20-01-2004 20:18									#223
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Seeing that the Jamski case had been paused, I would like to resubmit my earlier proposal. I propose that Comrade Jamski should serve as the Hive ambassador to the CyCons. I will resign the minute when his post is confirmed.

	20-01-2004 20:59									#224
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I hope he can stall them 'till I wanna invade them...

	21-01-2004 19:50									#225
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quote: Hive Proposal Greetings Ambassador HongHu, You asked on VoyForum a few days ago for our opinion on Enigma’s Doc Loyalty and Eco Eng for Adapt Econ with the PEG. We have had a long discussion, and no clear consensus has emerged, so I posted a poll on it. I am sorry for the delay in this reply, the CyCon forum has been very busy with war discussion that most people have not voiced an opinion on diplomacy recently. We also have a couple of new members (GeoModder (Maniac’s brother) and obstructor). I will try to give you a reply soon, but I’m a little busy at the moment in RL too I love the grapefruit stories on OTF too - Prime Fucntion Drogue Beta-8

	21-01-2004 21:05									#226
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My post at the embassy

quote: The Jamski case is paused in the Hive so I have proposed that Jamski should replace me as the Hive's Ambassador to the CyCons. Hopefully he'll be here to make your acquantaince soon. It has been a real special time for me working with all of you, dear functions. I will try my best to continue to communicate with you toward our mutual goals.

	31-01-2004 00:43									#227
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PM from Maniac:

quote: PEACE elimination Greetings Ambassadors Jamski and HongHu, I have a question for the Hive. If former PEACE members asked to join the Hive after their faction is destroyed, would you accept them in your faction? I hope to hear from you soon! Mani Alpha-3 External Affairs Function of the Cybernetic Consciousness __________________

Why is he asking this question?

	31-01-2004 04:06									#228
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Perchance the Pirates know something about the CyCon that the CyCon doesn't want known?

	31-01-2004 04:11									#229
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Good thought. I wonder what that can be ...

	31-01-2004 04:13									#230
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Tell him what he wants to hear. But if we can assimilate former PEACE citizens into our collective, I think that we will benefit from their knowledge.

As Comrade Vander has suggested, they might know something about the CyCon that the 'borgs might not want anyone else to know.

	31-01-2004 04:15									#231
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Well it is regarding CC uni coorperation it will not be a big news to us anyways. If it is regarding illegal infiltrations on the other hands ...

My imagination is so limited.

	31-01-2004 04:23									#232
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We should tell them that PEACE members will be left to their fate.

That's rather ambiguous, and if "fate" leads some members to join the Hive, then so be it.

	02-02-2004 01:29									#233
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quote: Originally posted by Archaic Following recent agreements and arrangements that will be announced soon, you'll no longer need to forward me the turn. Just post it from now on.

If I read it correctly, the univ is going to surrender everything to the CCs.

	02-02-2004 20:17									#234
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So it is true. The direct implication is that our CC relationship will be changed from pact to vendetta when we attack the univ. Anybody has any insights about what we need to be prepared for upon this revealization?

	02-02-2004 20:56									#235
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We need to inform the Drones, and we need to make PEACE our subjects. With that it will be 3 vs. 2; we will hold the upper hand in numbers, not by much, but enough to give us an advantage.

Therefore the priority in my mind is coordinating the Hive-Drone-PEACE efforts against the new threat of the CyCon-Uni.

	03-02-2004 00:17									#236
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Efforts should be made to ensure that the Drones are going to be in this 100%. If one faction spearheads the assault and the other two play support, the Triad should be successful.

Obviously, PEACE should take care of the sea while the Drones and ourselves sort out which faction is going to take lead. I'm really hoping that the Drones are not planning on backstabbing us despite on what they've said.

How dedicated are the Drones if we launch a campaign against the researchers?

	03-02-2004 00:33									#237
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The Drones has been planning to attack the univ for a long time. They had even said that they would go by themselves if we were not ready. There were some doubts that Drones would alliance with the CCs and backstabbing us. With the alliance of CC and univ I do not think this likelihood is real any more. In my opinion even if the Drones are planning to ditch us and go solo, now is not a good time either.

One more test would be the next turn when they say that they'll give us the prototyped missle plane. Since we don't have any attack ability right now. So if instead of giving us the +6 attack ability, they could actually attack us. But if they give us that prototype, I would say at least for now their loyalty to the pact is not a problem.

p.s. Frankychan are you able to access the Drone's embassy? Anybody else who are not able to access it and are interested in it please let me know.

	03-02-2004 00:43									#238
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Can you provide link? Thanks for the information.

	03-02-2004 00:47									#239
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http://www.civgaming.net/forums/for...p?s=&forumid=50

When you are there, you should be able to see the ACDG - Hive Embassy. You need to first have a memebership in the CGN though. Then we need to let buster add you.

	03-02-2004 00:48									#240
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thanks! I'l go and take a look. I'm already registered there under the same name I have here.