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Snowflake
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Apr 2003 time: 23:31
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How about an official message like this:
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Dear Functions of the CyCons,
Your messages have been warmly welcomed in the Hive. The Hive has always considered the CCs to be their best friends in this planet. Although the PUT has been long regarded as our potential enemy, the CC-PUT alliance has opened an entirely new door to the future structure of the world. The implications of this event and your proposals regarding the Hive pacting with uni and further cooperations between us have been heatedly discussed inside the Hive.
Although we cannot give you any promise at this time before we are able to take a look at the situations when the turn comes to our hands, we would like to assure you that the Hive has maintained its prior promise to you, that it is staying neutral in the CC-PEACE war. It should be easy for the functions to see that the Hive has not given NonlMath to the PEACE because the Hive does not possess that technology itself.
Chairman Voltaire
Ambassador Jamski
Comrade HongHu
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I'm hoping the official message to be sound that they cannot accuse us of lying when we break war against them. Then when the turn comes we can send another message saying that we are currently vulnerable to any potential attacks from the CPU attacks so we decide to change pact to treaty until we can be assured about the CCs attentions.
All of what I wrote are absolutely the truth.
Last edited by Snowflake on 04-02-2004 at 23:20
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Snowflake
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Apr 2003 time: 23:31
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My comment is that you have given them too much dear Jamski. We do not need to lie to them about Doc: Init, we could simply not say anything about it and let them guess. There are more ways for us to obtain that tech, for example, we could have probed PEACE for it. We have infiltrated them long before.
Looks to me your PM was sent after my posting the draft official message. I kind of wish you had checked the forum again before you sent that PM, that could saved us from more lying couldn't it? Plus you told them some of us want to attack CCs. I would have stopped just saying that it is heatedly discussed without revealing what is discussed.
Even in the message that we will send to them when we downgrade the pact to treaty I would refrain from talking about attacks to the CCs. I would only say that we feel we do not have surficient defense ability to stay in the pact.
Anyway, I have formulated a reply to Maniac and try to diffuse things a little.
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Dear Function Maniac,
Thanks for your messages. First I want to assure you that your official message has been received by the Hive timely. Since I am not the CC ambassador any more, I have tried to refrain from communicating with the CCs. However, comrade Jamski has been constantly informing us the communications between you. I am not aware of the last PM he sent but that may just be because he didn't have time to do it yet.
As for whether what he said is the truth, I would like to comment that some of his statements may be his own beliefs and conjectures. For example, the Hive does not have the knowlege of tech trade and relationship between Drones and PEACE. (I personally do not think that peace and Drones are perm pacted.) What I can assure you is that your proposal has received great attentions from the Hivers and we are experiencing great participations again from the team members. An official response to you was already formulated but it will have to wait until it at least gets the clearance from the Chairman. At the current stage I do not believe we will be able to give you a definitely yes or no before we see the next turn because people wants to assess the situation carefully.
Comrade HongHu
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Mead
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski
Sorry, I had to go away for a few hours...
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Sorry, I'm actually rather drunk.
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You seem so much mellower.
To Hong Hu, Voltaire and the rest of our diplomats:
I am very, very, impressed with your diplomacy.
I hope it is effective with CyCon.
Mead
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Snowflake
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Apr 2003 time: 23:31
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quote: Originally posted by buster
Just got this:
Answer is on top. Only really interesting part is the reference to discussion re cloudbase.
Re: Oficial message CC-PUT->Drones
Though I am not sure I agree on the strength evaluation, it is acknowledged that the cc / put fusion means we will need to re-evaluate our strategy.
On the Put incident as you have surmised we simply wanted to rip off some techs. The plane attack was made to get rid of probe defense rather than as the first shot of an invasion and FYI no invasion fleet has taken off heading for uni.
I will dicussing this matter with my teammates and let you know where we stand.
regards
buster
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Maniac wrote on Thursday, 5th February 2004 00:34:47:
Hello Foreman buster,
As you have probably heard, the Cybernetic Consciousness and Planet University of Technology have unified. This of course has implications for your war against PUT. Before PUT was a juicy target, and you were wise to attack it. But now this is no longer the case: we are prepared to defend the University with the full might of our military. Unlike PUT we have less pacifist builder instincts: instead we have shown ourselves to be formidable and capable tacticians in war.
However we are willing to forgive your previous actions against PUT and the Consciousness if you stop them right now. We think doing so would be in your advantage, and continuing your current line of action would lead to a fruitless conflict for you. We can offer several reasons for that statement:
1> You have already stolen all technology there is to obtain from PUT.
2> If you would conquer a PUT base, you would be probed raped to death, as the tiny PUT continent is swarming with librarians. With our vast empire, losing one or even a couple of bases is worth it if we get infiltration and a few of your techs in exchange.
3> But the most important reason of all: A full-scale war between us would require many resources that could be spent elsewhere, and in the meanwhile the Hive would sit aside, seeing us fight while they grow even stronger and stronger. You may feel you have a firm pact with the Hive and think they'll be on your side, but remember that they made us the same promises they probably made you: permapact, co-operative victory etcetera... The Hive has shrewd diplomats, well able to set up other factions against each other while they remain out of shot because of their promises.
Granted, in the recent past you have been able to cooperate much more with the Hive than us. But your heavy discussion with the Hive on who got to build the Cloudbase Academy for example shows that they may not have the same level of cooperation in mind as you might wish. And your cooperation was while you were a more powerful faction and thus a better trading partner than us. Now we have most likely become equally if not more powerful than you, so it wouldn't be surprising if the Hiveans switched allegiances to the faction that can give them the biggest benefits. So if I were you , I would very carefully watch your back, instead of storming ahead to try and attack PUT.
For these reasons we would like to offer you a truce. Hopefully we can again live peacefully side by side, and even form again a level of trust and come to cooperation, so that the Hive doesn't gain all the fruits of playing us out against each other.
Friendly greetings,
Mani Alpha-3
Prime Function of the Cybernetic Consciousness
Member of the Motherboard of the CPU (Central Processing Unit: multifactional government of the Consciousness-Planetary University)
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