22-10-2003 11:48									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy You can't put 1939 perspectives in 2003 issues. Moron.

ME moron? Read the entire thread first before touching the keyboard, or at least a few posts back to see you just proved what I was saying. But since you obviously do not have that ability, here is what I wrote:

quote: Laz sez:Uh huh. So if Germany hadn't invaded Poland in 1939, and had kept the holocaust within it's own borders, should we have sat on the sidelines wringing our hands in dismay? If you ever look for a new handle, "Pontius Pilate" would be my tip.

I sez:
Hitler.... Blah blah blah Hitler.... Bla blah bla blah blah blah Hitler..... .ble ble blah....Nazi..... Blah ble blah blah .....Nazi..... bleh blah blah.....Nazi....., blah blah blah Halocaust ble ble blah blah Halocaust blah bla Halocaust.


So who is the moron now? Moron.

quote: And those cheering him to die are out of line IMO. I don't particularly like the man, but he certainly doesn't deserve to die for any of his actions that I've heard of. If you disagree with him, much better that you hope that Britain "wakes up" and tossed him out at election time. Having him die just increases sympathy for him, and to some extent his policies.

I have no sympathy for warmongers. It would be nice if "fate" got rid of him. However he does, he must go somehow, and the sooner the better.

	22-10-2003 11:53									#92
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Your statements are a bit extreme, NeO. Are you suprised by the reception?

	22-10-2003 11:54									#93
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Your statements are a bit extreme, NeO. Are you suprised by the reception?

OK, you all are right. I hope Osama Bin Laden gets the treatment he needs for his kidneys, and lives a long and fulfilling life. Best of wishes to Tony Blair too.

	22-10-2003 11:57									#94
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Like I said, extreme.

	22-10-2003 11:59									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Do you have anything to back up your assertion that most Libertarians think this way? I thought not.

I call it the "Floyd Effect".

	22-10-2003 12:04									#96
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Like I said, extreme.

I never claimed to be a moderate. I am what one would know as an extremist, yes.... except that everyone I know shares my views. Perhaps I am the only one with the guts to say it. I mean really, imagine Dubya was diagnosed with a brain tumor, and had ten days to live..... What percentage of people would start cheering inside do you think? I would say around 10%. 40% would feel bad and say they still don't like the guy, and 50% would be saddened.

	22-10-2003 12:08									#97
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Billy Joel's Angry Young Man just started playing in my head.

	22-10-2003 12:12									#98
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quote: Originally posted by NeOmega I mean really, imagine Dubya was diagnosed with a brain tumor, and had ten days to live.....

Impossible. He needs a brain to get a brain tumor.

Besides: While I share your antipathy for Blair, I certainly wish him to be routed out of office in a well and healthy condition. To wish people to die only because they are liars and warmongers is just wrong.

	22-10-2003 12:20									#99
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And then, warmonger is not at all an extreme term, is it?

	22-10-2003 12:23									#100
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Not among gamers.

	22-10-2003 12:29									#101
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Aye.

	22-10-2003 12:52									#102
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Billy Joel's Angry Young Man just started playing in my head.

Did he do a song by that title too? I remember a pretty nasty version done by Styx.

	22-10-2003 15:37									#103
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quote: Originally posted by NeOmega OK, history lesson. Germany did not just sit on it's hands. It actually did go out for world domination. So I would have been all for dealing with Nazi Germany. Deal with reality, not hypotheticals.

Which part of "Answer the question, tosser" didn't you understand? That's twice you've ducked it.

	22-10-2003 15:58									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Do you have anything to back up your assertion that most Libertarians think this way? I thought not.

I know Floyd does. I thought his arguments from the libertarian pov were pretty consistent.

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quote: Originally posted by Azazel I know Floyd does. I thought his arguments from the libertarian pov were pretty consistent.

Libertarians vary even more from one another than Communists, in large part because they have never really been in power anywhere to have their theories tested by reality. Floyd is pretty "pure" in his reasoning, which means he will never be elected to public office. More common are people who wish to push things in a libertarian direction without having to defend a pure (ie unpopular) version of libertarianism, many aspects of which they themselves might disagree with.

	22-10-2003 17:17									#106
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What the **** is "pure"? You mean " consistent"? Seriously. If you like'em libertarian policies because "they work", you aren't a libertarian.

	23-10-2003 03:30									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Did he do a song by that title too? I remember a pretty nasty version done by Styx.

Here it is -- as with most Billy Joel songs, he wrote it:

quote: There's a place in the world for the angry young man With his working class ties and his radical plans He refuses to bend, he refuses to crawl and he's always at home with his back to the wall. He's proud of the scars and the battles he's lost He struggles and bleeds as he hangs on the cross And he likes to be known as the angry young man. Give a moment or two to the angry young man With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand He's been stabbed in the back, he's been misunderstood It's a comfort to know his intentions are good He sits in a room with a lock on the door with his maps and his medals laid out of the floor And he likes to be known as the angry young man. I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage, I've found that just surviving was a noble fight I once believed in causes too, had my pointless point of view Life went on no matter who was right or wrong. And there's always a place for the angry young man With his fist in the air and his head in the sand He's never been able to learn from mistakes He can't understand why his heart always breaks His honor is pure, and his courage as well he's fair and he's true, and he's boring as hell And he'll go to his grave as an angry old man. There's a place in the world for the angry young man With his working class ties and his radical plans He refuses to bend, he refuses to crawl and he's always at home with his back to the wall. He's proud of the scars and the battles he's lost He struggles and bleeds as he hangs on the cross And he likes to be known as the angry young man.

From the Turnstiles album, 1976.

	24-10-2003 14:43									#108
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My first thread kill...wow.

	27-10-2003 14:42									#109
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It was a masterpiece. You didn't even have to post the lyrics in German to do it.

	27-10-2003 22:38									#110
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Strictly speaking, it wasn't a threadkill. We were just giving NeOmega a few days to come up with a snappy comeback.