23-10-2003 05:11									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor MrFun: Actually, Panzer32 has a point, in that you gays shouldn't use the "natural determination" to justify your behaviour as moral. Hack, if I was you, I'd be just giving the finger to the religious whackos who expect you to live according to the principles of some nomadic priests of 4000 years ago

Well, since mutually consenting, safe, homosexual sex acts are not immoral, where am I justifying bad behavior based on the genetics argument?
And I'm not arguing that homosexual sex acts are moral based on genetics argument -- I argue that since homosexual sex acts based on mutual consent, and with health precautions do not endanger people, then it is not immoral.

And I did not participate in this thread to back up the article's questionable "findings" -- remember, I don't adhere to the genetics theory to the extent that I used to.

	23-10-2003 06:16									#92
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MrFun:
This is true. IIRC, Panzer32 wasn't responding to you personally, but to another gay (was it Wittlich?), who claimed that, if homosexual attraction is geneteic, it can't be a sin. I used "you" in the general meaning of "you Gays of 'Poly", but I shouldn't have done so since your positions differ.

And I think Panzer32 was right in opposing the fallacy of this argument, by using the most despised form of sexual attraction as an example.

Your MrFun's justification (if any is needed) of the morality of homosexual relationship is much better than the geneticbased justification

	23-10-2003 06:45									#93
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The thing that ticks me off is that people attack scientific theories on politcal grounds, like when people were saying that the "nature" side the Nature vs. Nurture debate had to be wrong because it wasn't politically correct.

For the record I am near the middle of that debate, leaning slightly toward Nature though.

	23-10-2003 07:29									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor MrFun: This is true. IIRC, Panzer32 wasn't responding to you personally, but to another gay (was it Wittlich?), who claimed that, if homosexual attraction is geneteic, it can't be a sin. I used "you" in the general meaning of "you Gays of 'Poly", but I shouldn't have done so since your positions differ. And I think Panzer32 was right in opposing the fallacy of this argument, by using the most despised form of sexual attraction as an example. Your MrFun's justification (if any is needed) of the morality of homosexual relationship is much better than the geneticbased justification

Ok, so I guess we're on the same floor of the building now.