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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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You sent the turn to me, but I play the University, not Gaians. Please send the turn to Flubber: xxxxsharris4141@yahoo.comxxxx without the x's.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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No turn seen here yet
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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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That's indeed my address, and I received the turn, but Flubber is playing the Gaians so he should get the save. Anyway, I sent the turn onward to Flubber.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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and now I have it twice LOL-- will be passed onward in a couple of minutes
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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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2101 sent to Kratylos of the Spartans.
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What rules are we using by the way?
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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2101 to Minutemirage
Oh for ease of reference
Kratylos - Spartans. (krawczykm@plusnet.pl)
Net Warrior - PeaceKeepers (Billci54@hotmail.com)
Flubber - Gaians (Sharris4141 AT yahoo DOT com
Minute Mirage - University minutemirage AT hotmail DOT com
ALSO please please please use a more descriptive filename than "turn1"-- THe naming convention most commonly used is gamename-player-year so the turn I sent was "classic-minute-2101". I ask that you all adopt this method for naming files. Remember minutemirage that you will do the year change so your outgoing turn should be classic-kratylos-2102.
Other points
1. who are we sending passwords too?? There is nothing worse than having a good game going and not being able to continue when someone disappears.
2. There are a number of settings and preferences that carry over from turn to turn. I have changed some of them to what I prefer ,( map grid on, fog of war on etc etc). Any of us can tinker with these to how we want to view and play the game as we want EXCEPT
-- ALWAYS investigate MONOLITH should never be turned on
-- any and all options related to automatic moving of units ( such as aircraft at fuel limits automatically returning to base) should always be OFF--
3. I don't see mentioned what rules we are playing--There are variations . . . Are we playing with the apolyton " tournament rules". If we are, I would like to clarify two points
a) are we playing with stockpile energy on--
b) Were people agreed that only one human controlled faction can win
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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
I ask that you all adopt this method for naming files. Remember minutemirage that you will do the year change so your outgoing turn should be classic-kratylos-2102. |
Umm... shouldn't Net Warrior be doing this? Turn order:
Flubber - Gaians (Sharris4141 AT yahoo DOT com
Minute Mirage - University minutemirage AT hotmail DOT
Kratylos - Spartans. (krawczykm@plusnet.pl)com
Net Warrior - PeaceKeepers (Billci54@hotmail.com)
quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
Other points
1. who are we sending passwords too?? There is nothing worse than having a good game going and not being able to continue when someone disappears. |
DilithiumDad suggested Mongoose in the other thread, what about him? Any reliable player is fine with me, and I agree that we need to find someone.
quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
3. I don't see mentioned what rules we are playing--There are variations . . . Are we playing with the apolyton " tournament rules". If we are, I would like to clarify two points
a) are we playing with stockpile energy on--
b) Were people agreed that only one human controlled faction can win |
Both a) and b) are fine with me, even if a) provides a little more micromanagement.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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Sorry
I thought we were already listed in turn order . . . I play classic so infrequently that the idea that the order of the factions is set or regular is foreign to me LOL.
I don't find that using stockpile adds much micromanagement at all-- I just add it after every unit when I start the unit . .. before I was even aware of this bug I used to place stockpile in the queue after units as a reminder to change the build orders. I like the additional energy and believe it speeds up the game a little.
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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
Sorry
I thought we were already listed in turn order . . . I play classic so infrequently that the idea that the order of the factions is set or regular is foreign to me LOL. |
Me too, I spent a good while wondering why I couldn't choose Progenitor Psych as the next tech. Actually, I think I last played a classic SMAC game about three years ago. Btw, we are using the 5.0 patch, aren't we?
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Originally posted by Flubber
I don't find that using stockpile adds much micromanagement at all-- I just add it after every unit when I start the unit . .. before I was even aware of this bug I used to place stockpile in the queue after units as a reminder to change the build orders. I like the additional energy and believe it speeds up the game a little. |
I'm not used to placing SE in queues like you are, but the democracy game is changing my ways. I think the industrious factions benefit more from this bug than the others, but like I said, using this is fine with me.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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Agreed-- It probably most benefits the Hive as their PS/planned social choices make it good for them to have a LOT of units-- but since none of us are playing the Hive, I don't think it makes a big difference
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Net Warrior
"Classic 2102 to Gaians" is the way I like to send my saved moves out as The Peacekeepers. If there's a strong objection, please let me know.
Net Warrior |
NO objection-- anything sufficiently descriptive is fine-- -- I just like to put the recipient players name ( instead of the faction name) in there as a reminder so that when I am opening it or zipping it I know who the turn is for. With about a dozen Pbems in progress, I have to think for a second about which faction I am ( I am currently playing as the Gaians, Drones, Hive , Uni, Morganites, Angels, Pirates, Believers)--
I believe I am fully patched, never had an issue. IIRC doesn't the latest SMax patch incorporate the corresponding patch for SMAC.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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Rule point
Since the Ultimate Builders Map is a " known map", we must all feel free to take a look at all the terrain features of this map ( by downloading or opening up a blank copy). THis makes things equally fair to people that have played the map before and those that have not.
I am playing this map at the moment in another PBEM so I couldn't avoid looking at it even if I wanted.
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Net Warrior
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Long Island, New York
Sep 2003
time: 00:31
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I wanted to download it (the map) and have a look but the link I had didn't work. I tried CGN too but that didn't work either. Can you provide a working link?
Net Warrior
Last edited by Net Warrior on 22-10-2003 at 04:48
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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
Rule point
Since the Ultimate Builders Map is a " known map", we must all feel free to take a look at all the terrain features of this map ( by downloading or opening up a blank copy). THis makes things equally fair to people that have played the map before and those that have not.
I am playing this map at the moment in another PBEM so I couldn't avoid looking at it even if I wanted. |
Aren't we playing the standard map of planet in this first game? DilithiumDad's map was supposed to be used in the second game.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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I thought we were on the ultimate builders map but either way is fine
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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Who has the turn ?? It appears that the last posted pass was to kratylos about 30 hours ago.
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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
Who has the turn ?? It appears that the last posted pass was to kratylos about 30 hours ago. |
Like I posted earlier, I've sent the turn to Kratylos.
Flubber, have you installed the "Alpha Centauri Win 2000/XP Compatibility Update"? This is the 5.0 patch and it's available here. Everyone should have it installed.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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I downloaded the compatibility patch-- Does that mean that everyone in all my games need it now?? What impacts will it have if someone does not?
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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
I downloaded the compatibility patch-- Does that mean that everyone in all my games need it now?? What impacts will it have if someone does not? |
The answer to both: I don't know.
I did try to search for the answer and I found some threads concerning the matter:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=84608
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...039#post2202039
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...highlight=patch
This is what qwillybj said about the matter:
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Originally posted by gwillybj
Also re the XP patch: All players in a MP game must use it, or none must use it; if one player in a 2-player PBEM has the patch and the other doesn't, the saves from either player will not be read correctly by the other's version (v4 by v5 and v5 by v4). |
However, if I understood things correctly, you played your first turn without the 5.0 patch and yet I was able to open it? In any case, I really wouldn't want to play without the 5.0 patch since the bugs it fixes are very important. If this means we have to restart the game, I'd say we should do it.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:31
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I received the turn and will play in a couple of hours--hmmm I assume that some of my opponents (playing smax ) would have had XP
Is this an issue only with Smac ??
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Minute Mirage
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Helsinki
Aug 2003
time: 07:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
I received the turn and will play in a couple of hours--hmmm I assume that some of my opponents (playing smax ) would have had XP
Is this an issue only with Smac ?? |
Yes this is only an issue with SMAC. The SMAX 2.0 patch is "fully patched", but the SMAC 4.0 misses some essential bug fixes, like the GA pop boom fix and maintenance bug. Therefore, the 5.0 patch (XP patch) is needed in order to be able to GA pop boom in SMAC.
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