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Zylka
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Originally posted by Rasputin
your opinion of yor abilitys out weighs relaity.. LOL.....
As i said your attack force was killed my first turn 2nd wave of forces was beign targeted when winzity signed peace.... you were to ofar back with 2nd wave of offensive units to do any damage..
Yuo left lunde undefended and it was taken and that caused a few units to die instantly as they were supported from there |
You couldn't have physically taken Lunde without it's second turn re-defense and my proper destructive counter. I'm not willing to play games outside of the game here, Raz - if you're ever willing to do those few turns with me at the helm instead we can report the outcome to the audience and confirm "reality". Now stop being a spell-checkerless, panic "LOL" using, poor civ building hack of a man.
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Zylka
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Ok Raz - I just looked at the map where your cavalry were to leave off making "mince meat fo toyr". You had ONE cavalry and A crusader, up against my 5 cavalry, + advancing riflemen, storm troopers, cannons, etc. You simply could NOT have taken Lunde that turn by straight ZOC rules, at which point after it was Winzity playing. Deity seems to have some units nearby which may have been turned to you after he told me "plans changed" when Winzity was back in control (in short - even D knows what a faltering idiot you are against a real player)
In short, your views here really do reflect the overall quality of your civ, as usual. If you want to re-do these turns, let's simply wipe the rest of the civs out to control AI, and go for it. Come on, b*tch - no running away or being saved by the bell this time. You're mine.
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Rasputin
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Brisbane
May 1999
time: 15:31
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Ok there is a bug in the saved game, if you load it and try to play my turn only it appears my turn finsihed, when in fact if you load it and play MP serbs first then egypt gets a turn . Which is how it should be. game saved by Ljube on serbs turn.
ok then rush buying cavalry while serbs moving created 1 extra cavalry in holy lands and one already east of town , one took out the stormtrooper / rifleman in hills the other entered an empty lunde. south of lunde, a rush built diplo bought his diplo and hence bout his amry there, then using that army and my new Bribed Cavalry was able to wipe out what was left of his attack force, remebereing that any units homed to lunde were killed when that city was taken ...
Here you can see the Tartar Attack army in place and the intitial Egpytians.
The 2nd wave of Tartar soldiers no where to be seen becuase they 4 squares away east, no retaking lunde that turn.
The beauty of dilpo games is that it not about the warfare, it about diplomacy... The Egyptians utilised what they had and what I am good at to get what i wanted. You may be good at duels and war and stuff, but you just proved you cant play diplo by attacking an enemy you knew not who he was allied with or friendly with. or his ability to get his friends to activate to counter and deficiencys. I never claim to be best civ2 player but i sure as hell am a lot better at playing diplo than you, the result of all this is my proof.
So no i wont take you on with other nations as AI, but if you want to try and do better with the other same players as humans go for it. I can out negotiate you in diplo anytime....
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deity
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Parrot Towers, Killcare Heights, NSW, Australia
May 1999
time: 14:31
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Zylka and atawa have got it wrong.
NONE of my troops went to Raz. All my forces were entirely at war with Serbs.
The Start of the session was on the Serbs turn as Raz said; and he had time to rush buy BEFORE his turn and even sell improvements if necessary. The NEW vet Storm in Holy Lands EASILY beats the Zylka stack. THEN Raz cavalry takes the undefended Lunde (which apparently destroyed supported units from Lunde...)
I don't think Raz is an idiot Zylka. Don't speak for me. Your post above is not clear to me so I'll hold back until I understand better what you are trying to say (am I the old man you refer to?)
And what are you implying atawa?
Last edited by deity on 17-12-2003 at 17:40
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Zylka
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No one owes Raz an apology. I might if this hadn't first been pushed over on to a personal level a la "lOL u r so stupid U now find out why never atT aack wiotu justifcation , loser". And the attack on Egypt wouldn't have happened if I hadn't caught on to his manipulations of MYSELF, so fair is fair.
By the way: you well know I quit that game because it was initially "confirmed" by several (respected) others that the only way the specific happening was possible was by map peaking between sessions. I find it insulting to insinuate otherwise, when I still hold you with high regard - especially in this game.
Last edited by Zylka on 18-12-2003 at 03:43
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Zylka
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Reading back over the posts it looks to me as though Zylka got personal before Raz did. |
Glad to see a lack of bias there D. Where in this situation does it get personal or goading before these?
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ahh but under zylka they would have conquered the world LOL
your opinion of yor abilitys out weighs relaity.. LOL..... |
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Zylka
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Originally posted by deity
BTW, I think Raz said he had at least one unit already in Holy Lands, plus the rush build new one plus the cavalry on the hill. Play the save online with someone as Serbs to hold and I'm sure Raz easily wins those battles. |
Sure, I think he had a statistical chance now of 66% taking lunde with those argued forces. That wipes out a dip a near destroyed canon on top. Even after that, he was meat for my grinder - especially comparing civs
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Zylka
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All previous diplos allowed unit bribe. |
but the said bribe didn't happen, and is therefore worth nothing in "what if" value
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Zylka
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Hey, I'm pretty annoyed and quite insulted too. Don't make your boy out to be some innocent victim of this spoken word. In any case - have a good rest of the game, guys. I really do hope you're ready and considering the next Eurodip where we can keep such heat in the game.
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Rasputin
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Brisbane
May 1999
time: 15:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Zylka
but the said bribe didn't happen, and is therefore worth nothing in "what if" value |
Umm bribe did occur..... Had to sell all my temples in land to get money to rush build and bribe,,, also used money so kindly given by tartars to buy a city.
i have redone the attack on the stacki nhills 20 times and every time the vet cavlary in holylands kills the unfortified storm trooper in the hills.
No "map peaking" betwen sessions was necesssary as i had knowledge of the main attack wave fro mtheir location around my detroyed city of ?Eatrern Mount, and then find the second wave after peace signed and winzity confirmed his troop locations with me for peace agreement, no tartar unit was close enough to lunde to retake it. all i had to do was keep buying units each turn to hold back the tartars, and with serbs under attack from azande i knew no more units coming from them , my plan was to take out the first wave, take losses form 2nd wave when it arrived and hit back with my reserves to be built. with indians mobilising i knew that they could cut of your supply through asia, so i had no concerns for a major attack, my unit numbers were similar to yours, with nearly al lcitys defended by 2 stormtroopers and building cavalry, all vet i should add. i was asked to send all my cavalry to india and didnt i only sent one to fool the world. I infomred india of the plan to attack him and he defended himself, once the axis powers saw this they turned on me , which was probalby their plan all along based on information of weak mid east... but they foolishly attacked eastern mount first instead of mid east. personal attacks started in icq and as i have stated often you can say what you want in the game in character but dont get personal.... i apologise for lowering mysle fto that standard, but as deity says the whole war would not have occured if zylka didnt know my unit set up in mideast...
but i prepared myself from turn one to defend and by the attack turn i had become only 2nd to deity in troops ..
well i wont repsond anymore, the outcomes speak for themsleves and i know that once again the best diplo players will be in the top 4 positons at the end. see hotw2 for what i managed when i took over a pathetic israel from dimlby and conquered USA and north africa.....
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16-12-2003 14:56
I forgot he could rushbuy before his turn, with either another vet stormtrooper or cav build he should have destroyed the doublestacked unit on the hill. To defeat it easily he should have 2 units though, not 1.
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