02-11-2003 03:32									#61
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Just remember: The route to hell is paved with good intentions!

	02-11-2003 03:34									#62
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paiktis, yes but I also know this! So it's not a danger to us. You see, I look for your well being. Yes you paiktis. And the rest of you. And all the people, I don't have priorities and responsibilities for any countries. That would make me best candidate.

	02-11-2003 03:43									#63
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Sorry Azazel for threadjacking your thread.

I belong to the minority then in here . I like Israel
Shalom!

	02-11-2003 03:49									#64
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I like Israel too. If I hated Israel, I'd be an ardent supporter of Sharon.

	02-11-2003 04:26									#65
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don't worry Israel

as long as we got your back it's all good and is all that matters

eurocoms can whine all they want but they are insignificant

i think it's actually the EU Motto:

"E plebariums anestro"

"we whine because we're not important anymore"

	02-11-2003 05:00									#67
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The respondents were shown a list of 15 countries and asked, for each country, if they thought they were a threat to world peace. There nothing to suggest that Israel was singled out as the greatest TTWP, rather, it was probably only rated as a TTWP because it's in the news a lot.

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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker as long as we got your back it's all good and is all that matters

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If Congo had TV coverage proportional to that of Israel, day would have to be couple hundred hours long just to air it all. Couple million people died in Congo in the last decade, yet hundreds of thousands of Congoans are not worth ten minutes on TV. **** that.

Pekka may be a good solution ...

	02-11-2003 15:57									#70
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good point

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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion If Congo had TV coverage proportional to that of Israel, day would have to be couple hundred hours long just to air it all. Couple million people died in Congo in the last decade, yet hundreds of thousands of Congoans are not worth ten minutes on TV. **** that. Pekka may be a good solution ...

My POV exactly.

	02-11-2003 16:02									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel Greatest danger to world peace? .

Searched on the article for any words containg "est" in them....Got three "question(s)" and two "Palestinian(s)".

Bad troll

	02-11-2003 16:10									#73
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uhh, wouldn't terrorist be the obvious threat to world peace?

	02-11-2003 16:11									#74
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No.

	02-11-2003 16:12									#75
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Terrorist is not country.

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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Searched on the article for any words containg "est" in them....Got three "question(s)" and two "Palestinian(s)". Bad troll

Well the article is misleading:

"Almost 60 percent of Europeans say that Israel is a larger threat to world peace than North Korea, Iran or Afghanistan"

Actually, 59 % said Israel is a threat to world peace, more than those who said it about NK etc. As the question was reported, it was not possible to rank countries, and you could name more than one country: "Tell me if in your opinion it presents or not a threat to peace in the world." What you can derive from that is that Israel is seen as more dangerous overall threat, with which I would not agree.

Of course the initial line will make it to the US media in another round of the "evil europe"-game that seems to sell so well besides the "stupid europe", "coward europe" and "weak europe".

	02-11-2003 16:22									#78
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if we are talking countries, then the U.S. should be ahead of Israel. Because the U.S. have more influence, a much stronger military, and a crazier leader than Israel has. And because of that, when they make mistakes- they tend to be bigger mistakes.

I demand the U.S. be regarded as the biggest threat to world peace!

	02-11-2003 16:23									#79
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It's still a stupid ****ing opinion.

	02-11-2003 16:26									#80
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I'm also surprised the US didn't make the nr 1 spot.

	02-11-2003 16:27									#81
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They probably didn't place it as an option.

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Not really.
I think what they were trying to say is "Is Israel a threat to world stability" and on that count, it is a resounding YES. Israel and it's socially backwards policies are definitely threats to world stability, which is why the Israeli state needs to be dismanteled.
Possibly reintegrated somewhere else.

	02-11-2003 16:30									#83
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backwords policies?

what would you have them do? lay down to the terrorists?

	02-11-2003 16:31									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel It's still a stupid ****ing opinion.

Well on the merit: Is Israel under Sharon a threat to world peace? I'd say yes, somewhat, indirectly - unfortunately a poll does not allow for further clarification.

	02-11-2003 16:39									#85
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quote: Israel and it's socially backwards policies are definitely threats to world stability,

Wow, I didn't know that our social policies ( which are more advanced that both the US of A, and the shithole that is currently mother Russia ), have so much impact on world opinion.

I guess the government should give in to the ongoing strike. I wonder what alternatives can we find to balance the budget of the country, except than restructuring and private services. I say tax the rich. Amir Peretz is a slimeball, though.

	02-11-2003 16:41									#86
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quote: Is Israel under Sharon a threat to world peace? I'd say yes,

As much, as, say, France. a little bit, Indirectly, etc. etc.

	02-11-2003 16:47									#87
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The worst threat to world peace is the couple US-Iran or the couple US-North Korea. We basically have a hyperpower that wants to have his rules respected, and we have rebellious players who want to make their own rules. There would be no threat to world peace if both parties weren't included.

And Israel is clearly a BIG reasons for the tensions between the West and the Arab-Muslim world. But to say it is a thread to world peace by itself is uninformed. Israel is a threat to regional peace. Other actors are a threat to world peace, even though Israel can stir the **** they'll fight upon.

	02-11-2003 16:48									#88
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Or, let's say "World Peace" is the Mac forum, and the US is Ming. Israel would have the role of Asher

	02-11-2003 16:50									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel quote: Is Israel under Sharon a threat to world peace? I'd say yes, As much, as, say, France. a little bit, Indirectly, etc. etc.

Is France holding an arab population under an apartheid style occupation regime? When did it last bomb Syria?

Israel is a touch more dangerous, especially under a government that loves the conflict.

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What an interesting metaphore.

quote: And Israel is clearly a BIG reasons for the tensions between the West and the Arab-Muslim world.

Since most of the arab world is actually mad that we even exist, I think that what's the problem is arab macho culture making them "all or nothing at all" all the goddamn time. OMG you didn't have it your way one time!