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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:31
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Ned:
AFAIK, there is only one Europe-wide information network, and it's called "Euronews". Euronews isn't exactly unbiased, but it seems to follow the bias of the country to which it's sending.
I mean, Euronews airs the same footage, but the comments change, as the footage is dubbed in 6 languages. For example, I could sometimes see two radically different comments on the same Israel / Palestine news item (and same footage) when switching from French to English 
So, to answer your question, you have to ask on a national basis. In France, info is mostly transmitted by one of the two main general channels (the public and the private one). The biggest private general channel, TF1, has a clear right-wing bias, as it had always favored right-wing candidates during elections and during crises. There's a close 'relationship' between right-wing governments and the public works company that owns TF1 
But we have no media outrageously insane, far-rightish and nationalistic like Faux News in France. There is however a fringe radio station that follows Le Pen's ideology, if you're interested.
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Ned
One of the questions is, do they get FOX News. Neither of you answered that. |
I don't remind having ever seen Faux News in my satellite distribution, unlike CNN, ABC, MSNBC and Bloomberg. Now, I haven't looked into the availabilty of American channels in more than a year, so maybe Faux is accessible since then.
Talk radio exists. In France, there is no law that could shut up a talk radio emission, except if it calls to hate or racial hate.
However, there aren't many radios specialized in pure talk. In general, there are general radios that deature talk shows.
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Jul 2002
time: 22:31
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(Pardon me if this has already been posted; I couldn't be arsed to read the entire thread...)
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El Pais, the Spanish daily newspaper, said in an article Thursday that the Dutch, Austrians and Luxembourgers were most likely to see Israel as a "threat in the world" whereas the French were less likely. |
The French were LESS likely? Looks like everyone has to find a new nationality to accuse of being overtly antisemitic.
I suggest the filthy Luxembourgers.
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Ned
Spiffor, I will send Rush an e-mail. Perhaps he will be up to the challenge of Europe when he gets out of rehab. However, most of his show is about US politics, which may not concern many Europeans. |
I've been very curious about that Limbaugh fellow in Februar, and I thoroughly read all available articles. Never again. Not only do I find the radical egoism he preaches extremely dangerous, I was also very displeased by the portrait of France he did. By that time, I assumed his show was an information show, and I didn't know it was dressed-up as entertainment.
There is room for conservative talk-radio or TV in Europe. There is an increasing demand for people who get all excited about sending junkies to prison (even in Netherlands!), for people who want to send all Immigrants in their country of origin, for people who whine on the always-too-high taxes permanently, for people who always trample on feminism, etc...
But if you're serious about writing an E-mail to Limbaugh, you should mention that he should seriously change his ways to stick in Europe:
- Be local. We don't care about America's issues as long as we can't make fun of them, or as long as we can't use them to show how barbaric/stupid your country is (examples: Gun Control, Monica Lewinsky). Especially, breaking down on the American liberals is sure to bring you nil attendance.
Also, don't try to make a Europewide show, that would be broadcast in English. Save in Britain, nobody but the educated would ever have the possibility to listen to you. And the educated are not going to waste their time listening to Rush's ramblings (save to fuel the flames they can say about the US  ). Shows on national scales in the national languege are the only hope it ever works.
- Stop insulting or patronizing European countries. Rush's utter contempt for Europe and for the Europeans will not please his audience at all, if it shows. For some reason, we Europeans tend to dislike being called chicken or traitors, especially when our reasons for not backing the US (whether our country or only the public opinion rejected to back you) have nothing to do with fear.
Rush believes in the values of extreme individualism that are very American. It is extremely likely he'll promote them in his show. It's extremely likely the EuroRushShow will partly be about how we Euros should follow the great model of the great United States under the guidance of the great Bush. Such a message will never stick in Europe, because we don't like being given lessons by people who know nothing about us but stereotypes.
- If you're going to praise the conservatives, do it right for each country. For example, in France for example, there is a strong tradition of clearly separating religion and politics: don't talk about having prayers at school in your French show. Other example, you can be much more hostile to abortion in your Irish show than anywhere else.
Rush's traditional issues are generally to the far right. Remove the racism component, and Rush is perfectly compatible with Le Pen, Haider, Fortuyn... Save for the "US is great" part. Europeans are being more and more impressed by this kind of far-right crap, so there is a demand for a local Rush in every country. But Rush would have to do it right. Simply broadcasting the same show as in the US on European waves won't do the trick.
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"But if you're serious about writing an E-mail to Limbaugh, you should mention that he should seriously change his ways to stick in Europe:"
No, if he wants to be a success he has to be the original. As for non-english countries, just subtitle him. Worked well for spitting image or Monty Python.
He'll attract a rabid rightwing fringe, maybe, but the main audience would look for entertainment value or for satisfaction of their Antiamericanism.
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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:31
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Spiffor, you amaze me. You actually looked into Rush Limbaugh to see what he had to say.
You should know that the pompous ego-maniac gig is a joke. He really is a very humble guy. His show mainly pokes fun at the left, and, like you say, he promotes individualism.
Obviously, Euro-bashing would not go well in Europe. I don't think he does that. But he has been critical of Chirac for obvious reasons.
On the immigration issue which seems to be driving European politics now, I have no idea what Rush position would be. After all, we are a nation built on immigration. It makes us strong. We really are not afraid of it at all. The problem we have with immigration is a federal-state issue with respect to public services mandated by the Feds but unfunded by the Feds. The states have to render these services at their own expense to all comers, including illegal aliens. The illegal aliens do not pay taxes because one needs a social security number or a IRS taxpayer ID to pay taxes in the US and only citizens can get a social security number and only legal aliens can get a taxpayer ID. As a result, border states are nearing bankruptcy, including California.
What I think Rush would harp on in Europe are the high taxes, excesssive union power and too much socialism. Rush is a free-enterprise kind of guy.
The way Rush works is through local radio stations. I think he might do his show in English and have it translated later so that those who do not speak English can enjoy the show as well.
We shall see.
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05-11-2003 17:50
I REALLY fail to understand your point. 
But I doubt that's what Ned really wants 
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