03-11-2003 02:32									#61
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MtG, the Republican Party voted heavily in favor of the Civil Rights legislation. Their votes were need for passage even though they were the minority party.

As to the rest of your filth, of course there are complete idiots in the Republican Party. Being a religious extremist does not translate into bigotry given that these same extremists once were responsible for abolition and the 13th and 14th amendments.

As to the crash of '29, crash from what? A boom? Don't the people responsible for the boom get some credit for it?

Clearly Roosevelt brought necessary reforms. I and many other Republicans give credit where credits is due. That makes us different from the Democrats of this forum.

	03-11-2003 03:14									#62
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Funny how the Democrats have a collective memory block of their party before FDR.

And yes Lincoln and the Abolutions were Racists by todays standard. During that time it was commonly held belief, just like the moon was made of cheese. As times change people mature. Well, except for the Democrats........


I am somewhat confused, on the one hand MTG seems to be pro-Democrat, yet MTG also seems to have military experience.

Those are a VERY rare combination of traits.

	03-11-2003 03:22									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Ned The Democrats strut and puff that they are the party of equal rights. But it was the Republican Party that passed the civil rights legislation in the 50's and 60's. It was Eisenhower who sent in the troops to support Brown v. Board of education.

Yes, and I realize how often the name Eisenhower comes up when the repugs mention their favorite presidents.

quote: The slanders and smears of the Democrats are shamless.

Without sham? So you're saying they're honest?

quote: It is amazing than any minority supports that party since it is the Republican Party that truly is the party of equal opportunity.

Yeah, the equal opportunity to be dirt poor!

	03-11-2003 03:24									#64
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you're not poor if you're smart and work hard.

	03-11-2003 03:26									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident you're not poor if you're smart and work hard.

Wow, Diss is a Republican.

	03-11-2003 03:26									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident you're not poor if you're smart and work hard.

I thought you weren't poor if you had lots of money.

	03-11-2003 03:30									#67
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that too.

and I'm not a republican. I'm an economic conservative. I believe in capitalism

	03-11-2003 03:35									#68
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And embarrassed by it?

If one is truly smart they don't have to work hard.

	03-11-2003 03:36									#69
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP If you are talking about Liberia, I believe Frederick Douglas was a huge proponent of that. Himself a black ex-slave, abolitionist.

I'm talking about the creation of a Central American colony (advocated by Lincoln, but without specifics - Stanton advocated both the location (Granada, modern-day Nicaragua) and the method of acquisition (invasion)) for the purposes of wholesale removal of slaves, as it was recognized both that Liberia had limited resources and that many slaves were generations removed from Africa and would in theory be more able to function in a "familiar" semi-tropical agrarian situation.

	03-11-2003 03:52									#70
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb I am somewhat confused, on the one hand MTG seems to be pro-Democrat, yet MTG also seems to have military experience. Those are a VERY rare combination of traits.

Ask Wesley Clark.

I'm an economic semi-rightwinger, socially a mix of "that government governs best which stays out of my effective range" and centrist, and "pro-military but believe in a little intellienge in how, when and why they're employed" southern Democrat. My position vis-a-vis the "mainstream" (i.e. vocally whiny welfare state liberal) Democratic party is that I'm on an OP a bit outside the far right flank of the party.

I'm an anti-Federal government, anti-religious conservatives in government, pro "gun contol is hitting the target", "pro DP if you fry the worthy and don't screw up and get the wrong guy" Democrat.

When Reagan lied about getting rid of the Departments of Commerce, Energy and Education, I was all for it, except for the part that it was a lie. When George II talks about the Feds imposing standards in education, I ask myself "OK, Georgie, who are you really pandering to, because you and I both know that education is none of the feds' damn business, and if "you people" (recall Gen'l Lee) would **** off with your unfunded mandates, I'm sure the states could manage their education funding (and most everything else) just fine.

I loathe most of the liberal whiny pukes in the Democratic party, and I think Barbara Boxer is our collective gift to the RNC, which is why they never try real hard to defeat her. But I loathe the RNC leadership, Bush, Ashcroft, Cheney, Wolfie, DeLay and the religious right social conservatives even more.

	03-11-2003 04:00									#71
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Don't pull any punches, Mike -- tell us how you really feel.

	03-11-2003 04:14									#73
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My, my MTG.

That's a lot of loathing.

But then again, being both Military and Democrat probably generates some sort of unnatural chemical reaction to fuel it.

Oh, and Wes Clark only turned Democrat a few months ago.

	03-11-2003 04:17									#74
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Bottom-line, Michael thinks everyone sucks, except for him.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Bottom-line, Michael thinks everyone sucks, except for him.

And once again probably a by product of the unnatural chemical reaction.

	03-11-2003 04:26									#76
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb My, my MTG. That's a lot of loathing.

Only until we get some real leaders in American politics. Yep, I guess you may be on to something.

quote: Oh, and Wes Clark only turned Democrat a few months ago.

No matter, no matter.

	03-11-2003 04:27									#77
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Bottom-line, Michael thinks everyone sucks, except for him.

Among politicians, pretty much. Although there are a few exceptions.

	03-11-2003 04:31									#78
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For the most part I agree with MTG, so I guess I can forgive him for being a Democrat. I'll just consider him Party Affliation Confused..........

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We want Kissinger!

	03-11-2003 04:37									#80
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I agree with virtually all MtG's positions.

I think he is a Schwarzenegger Democrat.

	03-11-2003 04:39									#81
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Not confused at all. I just want to push the whiny liberals off to er, Green-er pastures , and reclaim the center for the real Democratic party.

As for switchng party affiliations, the Democrat leadership has inspired me to consider that at times, but then I just have to think of the Republican leadership for a moment, and I'm cured.

	03-11-2003 04:43									#82
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We need a law deporting all whiny liberals to Canada where they belong.

	03-11-2003 04:44									#83
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sounds good to me

	03-11-2003 04:46									#84
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And Mexicans.

	03-11-2003 05:50									#85
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat "Yellow dog" "Democrats" - as in the old saying "I'd sooner vote for a yellow dog than a Republican." Up until the late 60's, you couldn't call yourself a Republican, due to ol' Abe and the carpetbaggers being Republicans in name. To say that Orval Faubus and Lester Maddox were FDR New Deal Democrats is an absolute joke though - they had the same name, but sure as hell weren't the same party. Any more than Zell Miller and Barbara Boxer are in the same party in more than name.

well Mr. Fun thinks only republicans are racists. Should I chalk it down to a misinformed Yankee?

	03-11-2003 05:55									#86
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That is always such a convenient (and so often, entirely accurate) explanation for a veritable host of evils.

	03-11-2003 06:20									#87
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand And Mexicans.

We need the Mexicans for our fields!

The whiny liberals on the other hand are useless.

	03-11-2003 06:24									#88
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Funny how the Democrats have a collective memory block of their party before FDR. And yes Lincoln and the Abolutions were Racists by todays standard. During that time it was commonly held belief, just like the moon was made of cheese. As times change people mature. Well, except for the Democrats........ I am somewhat confused, on the one hand MTG seems to be pro-Democrat, yet MTG also seems to have military experience. Those are a VERY rare combination of traits.

Hey moron -- I'm a Democrat and I'm well informed about the history of the Democratic party.

	03-11-2003 06:28									#89
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Whoever thinks the abolition movement was part of the religious right is a tad bit delusional. Civil rights are the province of us lefties.

	03-11-2003 06:40									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Whoever thinks the abolition movement was part of the religious right is a tad bit delusional. Civil rights are the province of us lefties.

Delusional.