03-05-2004 22:18									#91
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You know, the more I look at LL's reasoning, the more I realize it's utter crap. General Tso's was ALREADY settled when we made the border agreement! How can they use that as an excuse? UnO, I give you full permission to go to town on these b******s.

	03-05-2004 23:40									#92
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I'll be avoiding chat tonight. It's been such a horrid day...

	04-05-2004 00:40									#93
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quote: It's been such a horrid day...

But that's exactly the mood we want you in when you talk to them

	04-05-2004 01:38									#94
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Oh no.

Last time I was in this kind of mood half of GS ended up quitting...

	07-07-2004 09:25									#95
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LL has offered us Dyes this turn. Chatting with MZ, they would like a simple lux for lux deal. So, do we do it? I have held off playing the turn so we can decide on this.

	07-07-2004 14:34									#96
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If we don't accept it, it will raise their suspicions about us attacking - perhaps to the point of confirming that we plan to attack.

It would give us 2 more happy faces per city that have marketplaces - that can't hurt us

But then again, they will also likely try to trade dyes for incense with Sunshine - and if we accept, that would give them 4 luxes (same as us if we accept).

Question is : do we have more marketplaces they do? Probably yes, so would possibly help us more than them in the short-run.

I would say yes - mostly to help us for 20 turns and to perhaps avoid confirming that we plan to attack LL.

(From chatting with WIA - I asked him how things were going on LL and RP - and he said that LL was "pretty dead, basically no discussion - only playing the turn" - perhaps an indication that only MZ and a couple of others are active now on LL....)

	07-07-2004 23:30									#97
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IIRC an extra lux won't let us lower the slider. We'd have to have an extra happy face from somewhere like the HG, and we don't have that.

Still, it would help some, and it might help reduce any suspicions, so I'd say send them the furs.

	08-07-2004 00:56									#98
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I'm probably not going to get a chance to play the turn until at least 11:30 EST tonight, which is past the 24-hour mark, so if someone else wants to grab it, please do!

	18-01-2005 18:59									#99
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quote: Greetings It has been a long, long time since we last spoke. Well,sincerely there were not too much reasons to talk...until now. Your recent rise at the powergraph seems like some sort of massive upgrading and a indication of a probable attack. We are prepared to defend ourselves, but this war will consume all the wealth that we both have. What's worse, if we broke our status quo an scenario will be created where Monthy and CoD could attack our continent with ease, their armies will be prepared soon when they finish with the monkeys. So, what are your intentions? We are open to anything, don't be afraid to talk. We could't do something about the monkeys because of your menace at the opposite side. You probably had the same problem. This could change now. Niessuh, Latin Lovers

Well folks. How would you like to handle this?

Of the options available.


Total Honesty: Interesting. I've never done that before, for certain.

Half truths: Say how we made an agreement as part of the whole contact arrangement not to go to the other continent. Say that we hoped one of the other teams would for us.

The team is full of builders, with the exception of myself, all lego members. The power graph was a knee-jerk reaction to lego getting whooped on. Riders do tend to raise the thing. It's not like we're hiding it. (one could accuse them here of attempting to hide a buildup by building warriors for upgrade for instance)

The Complete lie:

Claim we think it's time to do something about the whole Monkey situation. We'ld love them to join in. Who knows, they might actually load some troops and go over there.

	18-01-2005 23:59									#100
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I don't think the complete lie is worth the risk. We've mentioned to at least some people, I believe, that we have a hands-off policy on the other continent. That may have gotten back to them. This still leaves room for the half truth, however ("admit" we were hoping someone else would go).

BTW, let's make sure to check F3 for a new LL embassy next turn. In fact, we may want to delay a response until we get the save so we can know how much they know. (We'd know they saw at least the horse build, and the 90% gold.)

If we go for the half truth, definitely bring up the powergraph. They're a major civ too, and I doubt Sun Tzu's was really what they were going for (or are going for now, for that matter; if I were them I'd be hoping for Bach's or Smith's). We simply want to be one of the big kids on the block - like when we turned out those warriors for upgrade to MI, at UnO's insistence - in order to make sure no one messes with us.

The Truth would be interesting. We know they're shoring up () their coastal block, and I imagine they're building more military too rather than focusing on improvements. What I think we might lose by using honesty is what shreds of a surprise attack we may still have.

	01-02-2005 23:37									#101
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I think we could get away reasonably with the half-truth. Question is if we want to.