20-11-2003 04:31									#1
	MarkG's Conquests Diaries Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Got C3C on my hands today!

I have a crazy schedule in that army thing of mine over the next 2 weeks but i'll try to play as much as possible and post as much as possible


Day 1

Day 2, Day 3

I basically just opened the boxes, installed, browsed the bonus cd, saw the intro movie and then went straight to thr editor. Notes:

i) The intro is/looks amazingly short. I smell lack of funding for artists (or more accurately: use of artists on new units and other graphics rather than a few-times watched intro)

ii) bonus cd: contains what has already been made public. the single player and multiplayer guides look really good!

iii) editor: city/unit placement and stuff. seems like we're at civ2 levels (e.g. you can edit everything) minus events. in 30 minutes i had my small amazing scenario
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=102089

not much time to elaborate, some screens following....
next update on friday

	20-11-2003 04:32									#2
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from the intro

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main screen

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	20-11-2003 04:35									#4
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choosing a scenario
there's plenty of other stuff beyond the big conquests scenarios....

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	20-11-2003 04:39									#5
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(final for today)
editing the properties of a city in the editor

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	20-11-2003 06:20									#6
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main page is your city name ??? gee you got the web on your mind so much you take into city naming too

	20-11-2003 07:26									#7
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I didnīt notice that

	20-11-2003 07:27									#8
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Hey, at least he didn't call it 'index.html'

	20-11-2003 07:38									#9
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Hey! How did you get the extra CD?!

	20-11-2003 09:48									#10
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quote: main page is your city name ???

download my scenario to see the rest!

quote: How did you get the extra CD?!

it's one of the advantages of being a grand lord


btw, as usual, i'm accepting questions/requests for screens....

	20-11-2003 09:52									#11
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG btw, as usual, i'm accepting questions/requests for screens....

How about a legible set of screenshots of the strat guides on that bonus CD...?

	20-11-2003 10:54									#12
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG btw, as usual, i'm accepting questions/requests for screens....

Multplayer setup screens, what are the options ? is it easy to setup ??

	20-11-2003 16:20									#13
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt How about a legible set of screenshots of the strat guides on that bonus CD...?

61 screens coming up.... (yeah right)

	20-11-2003 19:11									#14
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Would it be an abuse of lordship to upload the bonus cd to the server?

	20-11-2003 20:00									#15
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what about some in-game screenshots from your "Amazing Scenario"?

	21-11-2003 00:03									#16
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Can I see the city names there if I don't have Conquests?

	22-11-2003 02:08									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Can I see the city names there if I don't have Conquests?

hmmm no, but if you download it there is a readme with some other text replacements

	22-11-2003 06:27									#18
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Day 2

I played a multiplayer civ3 game today after, well, a really really long time.

The setup is not very hard to get. You start by choosing between internet, lan, hotseat and pbem.


If you havent put in your nickname, you're asked for it


Then you get the lobby screen. You see the current games, you can chat with others((but you dont have a list of the people in there(perhaps this is only done through gamespy arcade(dont remember)?))


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if there are too many games availiable, you can filter them out from the filter button

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joining or starting a game yourself brings up the staging window

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the Game Type options are:
- Simultaneous Moves
- Turn Based

and the Game Mode ones:
- Classic
- Scenario
- Load Game
- Tournament
- Elimination
- Regicide
- Mass Regicide
- Victory Point Scoring
- Capture the Princess

The new Tournament game type enforces the default game rules on all players


So my first MP c3c game went good in terms of winning as 2 hours in the game my opponents drop out with me having the best score. It also went good in terms of speed as despite 600-700 ping times with my opponents, things were decent. I cant make comparisons with Civ2 as i dont remember the last time i played civ2 mp In these 2 hours we've reached 1000AD(someone calculate how many turns that is) It didnt went well in terms of multiplaying as i was in an island separated by ocean from the others and i didnt get to battle them

Note to self: next time, choose pangea

Interested in a C3C Tournament? It may be your chance to kick some Grand Lord a&*


next update probably on Sunday...

	22-11-2003 07:01									#19
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thanks mark for that....

Did you actually play an internet game , if so how would you compare the times of turns etc.

Was it a valid experience or just a wste of time?

If you have played civ2 MP, how would you compare the two?

Thanks again

	22-11-2003 19:45									#20
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no bugs? no bugs at all?

	23-11-2003 04:47									#21
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So, what happened to the turnless game type?

	23-11-2003 13:12									#22
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- Simultaneous Moves = Turnless


- Bugs? havent played that many hours but didnt have a crash yet....
then again i think i didnt have any crashes with civ3 either....

	23-11-2003 18:42									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG - Bugs? havent played that many hours but didnt have a crash yet.... then again i think i didnt have any crashes with civ3 either....

sorry, I meant multiplayer-related bugs.

	23-11-2003 21:05									#24
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my single MP game run along for 2 hours without any crash or something

	24-11-2003 01:29									#25
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Day 3

Today i started playing the Conquests scenarios. Begun with the Mesopotamia conquest, and chose the easy path of playing on warlord level

The main goal is to build the seven ancient wonders. You can play at most for 160 turns(then the score doesnt count). Used my classic "fill up the world with cities" strategy followed by the "archers/warriors flood" strategy that crushed the Hittites

The scenario includes an altered tech tree, new city improvements and (at least one) new resource, stone.

In this game i also got to see the new Scientific Leaders which are very helpfull in the Mesopotamia scenario as you can build a wonder in a single turn

All in all, it was fun, and given the limited amount of space for most civs it will make for some very interesting games at higher levels and lots of strategy talk.

Speaking of strategy, i noticed that as the Mycenaeans you dont get to have any horses in your area and you have to get your hands on half the map before geting them and being able to build chariots and other related units. Do have that in mind when you play Mesopotamia...

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	24-11-2003 06:57									#26
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is that a suitcase in Parmenides' hands?

	24-11-2003 09:49									#27
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yes he has a suitcase and a pipe i believe

	25-11-2003 02:03									#28
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG - Simultaneous Moves = Turnless

Oh... ok.
In PTW there is both a sim. turns and a turnless mode. And ofcourse a turnbased mode.

Do you know what the difference is on PTW sim. turns and C3C sim. turns? Did they remove the turnless mode? (I don't care since I always played sim. turns)

	25-11-2003 09:22									#29
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correction

Turnless mode seems to be gone from C3C.

	25-11-2003 14:33									#30
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quote: as the Mycenaeans you dont get to have any horses in your area

Not really true...you have some near RL Byzantium, and you will found a city there anyway (and until that, you can park your starting warrior there). Far closer then Iron for some other Civs, or Horses for Phoenicia.