13-12-2003 00:08									#91
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quote: And whatever happened to my little dog toto? He went to see the rains down in Africa

oh, my, god. that is so horribly bad...

	13-12-2003 00:09									#92
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I liked the Toto line better, Che. Had more spunk.

-Arrian

	13-12-2003 00:12									#93
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara No, just the conservative ones, because they're evil. Liberal Christians are nice, decent, loving people. Revolutionary Marxist Christian are even better.

Obviously you're being sarcastic, since not all conservative Christians are evil.




And I suppose if you want to compare homosexuals with alcoholics as both being disorders of addiction, does this mean that heterosexuals are also addicted to sex?

	13-12-2003 00:12									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian I liked the Toto line better, Che. Had more spunk. -Arrian

Which is why he kept getting Dorothy into trouble.

	13-12-2003 00:15									#95
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Obviously you're being sarcastic, since not all conservative Christians are evil.

Yes, they are. All of them. Conservatism is a fundimentally selfish philosophy. Selfishness is a mortal sin. Mortal sins send you to hell. Hell is reserved for evil people.

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liberalism is a fundamentally selfish philosophy. selfishness is a mortal sin. mortal sins send you to hell. hell is reserved for evil people.

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Good thing I'm not a liberal.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I'm betting an African one will be more likely.

MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR mistake.

There is a good reason the Pope should come from the most powerful country in the world. Appointing an African would only marginalize the Church for so long as that Pope reigned.

	13-12-2003 00:39									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Boris: You want proof of the comparison between alcohol and homosexuality? You say you are not addicted to the lifestyle? Fine. How hard would it be for you to remain chaste?

Not any harder than it is for a straight person. I was chaste from about 16-21, thanks to the closet.

Are you addicted to being a heterosexual and engaging in heterosexual behavior? Or is monasticism the only way one can be considered not addicted to anything?

And you are aware of the difference between a biological urge like sex and the urge to drink, I hope?

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poland wasn't the most powerful country in the world, but jp2 has managed to keep it from being marginalized...

	13-12-2003 00:39									#101
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I wanna be Pope.

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quote: Originally posted by Ned MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR mistake. There is a good reason the Pope should come from the most powerful country in the world. Appointing an African would only marginalize the Church for so long as that Pope reigned.

I think it'd be a mistake, too, but look where Catholicism is fastest-growing.

How about South America? Talk about a massive Catholic populations...

	13-12-2003 00:45									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed poland wasn't the most powerful country in the world, but jp2 has managed to keep it from being marginalized...

JP2 was a leader in the fight against both NAZIism and its cousin Communism. His election helped restore democracy to a portion of the world too long oppressed.

Africa is not the center of the Democratic world. America is. America continues to lead the fight for liberty and justice in the world.

The Church needs to send the right message just as the election of JP2 sent the right message.

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J2P was not a leader in the fight against Nazism.

Commnuism is not its cousin, *******.


edit, didn't expect insult to make it past censors.

	13-12-2003 00:47									#105
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that's true, except the cousins thing of nazism and communism. convergent evolution for those two.

what is to say that an african pope may not provide for a huge revitalization and healing effort in africa?

	13-12-2003 00:58									#106
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Q Cubed, it would. But the fight for democracy is far more important than recognizing the progress of Africa towards Christianity.

	13-12-2003 01:00									#107
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Che to a NAZI or a Communist, the other philisophy is a bitter enemy.

To a democrat, they are two flavors of the same thing.

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quote: Originally posted by Ned Che to a NAZI or a Communist, the other philisophy is a bitter enemy. To a democrat, they are two flavors of the same thing.

You are not a democrat and you have been explained to several times the major differences between the two. You choose to be willfully ignorant or deliberately insulting. Either way, it's contemptible.

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quote: Originally posted by Ned Che to a NAZI or a Communist, the other philisophy is a bitter enemy. To a democrat, they are two flavors of the same thing.

Spoken like someone who never lived under either.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Yes, they are. All of them. Conservatism is a fundimentally selfish philosophy. Selfishness is a mortal sin. Mortal sins send you to hell. Hell is reserved for evil people.

God man -- can't you separate the conservative, religious people who deliberately seek to do harm to homosexuals and those who are just ignorant??

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Not any harder than it is for a straight person. I was chaste from about 16-21, thanks to the closet. Are you addicted to being a heterosexual and engaging in heterosexual behavior? Or is monasticism the only way one can be considered not addicted to anything? And you are aware of the difference between a biological urge like sex and the urge to drink, I hope?

Thanks for reinforcing my earlier post, Boris.



Can't wait to see how they answer these questions.

	13-12-2003 01:10									#112
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun God man -- can't you separate the conservative, religious people who deliberately seek to do harm to homosexuals and those who are just ignorant??

Evil is evil. Whether it is the result of malice, ignorance, apathy, or good intentions does not matter. It must be combatted. It must be defeated. I'm tired of turning the other cheek. I will not die with dignity. I will not lie down with the lion.

	13-12-2003 01:12									#113
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You know for someone who has married recently, you sure sound like you're NOT happy.

	13-12-2003 01:13									#114
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Republican and wishy-washy liberals make me mad. Don't get me started on those dirty moderates.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Spoken like someone who never lived under either.

Boris, I assume you have the credentials to make this statement?

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Republican and wishy-washy liberals make me mad. Don't get me started on those dirty moderates.

Well I'm a moderate liberal and I wish you HAPPY HOLIDAYS -- so there.

	13-12-2003 01:16									#117
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I bet it helps in self-fellatiation to be so spineless.

	13-12-2003 01:19									#118
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quote: Republican and wishy-washy liberals make me mad. Don't get me started on those dirty moderates.

@che

following party line lets you engage your mind less.

	13-12-2003 01:19									#119
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Being reasonable, and standing on the middle ground is not equated with being spineless.

Moderation is antithetical to extremism -- so how can you say that extremism of any kind makes sense??

	13-12-2003 01:20									#120
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Che, I can hardly imagine you raising kids. What are you going to say to them during Christmas for example? Christ was an evil baby?