20-12-2003 09:30									#1
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Ok. I'm reading Al Franken (Jewish BTW) and I think he makes a pretty strong case that many famous media personalities who where until this moment totally unbeknownst to me, are in fact "greedy, evil, warmongering bigots.

And the funny thing is that they all support the Republican Party.

So:

For instance when Richard Mellon Scaife, a giver of 35$ million to the Heritage foundation, funded numerous other institutions like the Cato institute, the Hoover institution,the American enterprise Institute, and many more, called a journalist, and I quote:

"You ****ing commuist cvnt" and said, she was ugly and her teeth terrible, and when he bid her good-bye said to her "Don't look behind you!".

, well then i would just have to ask whether the socallled liberal segment of the American society is going to stand to accept this bvllsheet.

And what about push polls. Those who know are in the "know".

Well. As a European I would just have to say that the Republican Perty now stands for me as the most ultimate form of evil the world has ever seen. More evil than the Nazi party because it has more power, and it is much more dishonest. You just don't treat a woman that way.

	20-12-2003 09:32									#2
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I'd like to respond, but I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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You are Sava's DL, aren't you?

But you're right - one person calling a woman a **** is so much worse than another killing 6 million people because of their religion.

	20-12-2003 09:40									#4
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT You are Sava's DL, aren't you? But you're right - one person calling a woman a **** is so much worse than another killing 6 million people because of their religion.

No.

I am saying that a person who calls a respectable woman "a fvcking communkst cvnt", because she discloses his ties to the Republican Party is not a real gentleman.

And if the Republican Party is being funded by pimps or homosexuals, then I, as a European would simpy have to reject that in all it's entirety.

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"And the funny thing is that they all support the Republican Party."

And why is this odd, coming from Al Franken? It would be like complaining that all Limbaugh does is bash Democrats - well, duh!

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quote: I am saying that a person who calls a respectable woman "a fvcking communkst cvnt", because she discloses his ties to the Republican Party is not a real gentleman.

And what if he didn't want those ties disclosed for business reasons or something? Then the woman was out of line and deserved being called what she was.

	20-12-2003 09:47									#7
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT "And the funny thing is that they all support the Republican Party." And why is this odd, coming from Al Franken? It would be like complaining that all Limbaugh does is bash Democrats - well, duh!

All I know about mr. Limbaugh is that he had a pimple on his behind so that he could not take over from us during the war in Indochine. Please do not sidetrack the issue.

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quote: Originally posted by Tripledoc No. I am saying that a person who calls a respectable woman "a fvcking communkst cvnt", because she discloses his ties to the Republican Party is not a real gentleman. And if the Republican Party is being funded by pimps or homosexuals, then I, as a European would simpy have to reject that in all it's entirety.

Naw, you're not Sava's DL. Sava has more sense than to say that he didn't say something just 3 posts after he said it.

quote: Well. As a European I would just have to say that the Republican Perty now stands for me as the most ultimate form of evil the world has ever seen. More evil than the Nazi party because it has more power, and it is much more dishonest.

Question (for others, not for TripleSava): Can a person Godwinize their own thread in the very first post? Or does it have to come later?

	20-12-2003 09:48									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Tripledoc And if the Republican Party is being funded by pimps or homosexuals, then I, as a European would simpy have to reject that in all it's entirety.

Oh, do tell--why are homosexuals akin to pimps?

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quote: Originally posted by Tripledoc All I know about mr. Limbaugh is that he had a pimple on his behind so that he could not take over from us during the war in Indochine. Please do not sidetrack the issue.

Huh?

	20-12-2003 09:49									#11
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Huh?

He's referring to Limbaugh's Vietnam draft deferment.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Oh, do tell--why are homosexuals akin to pimps?

Obviously TripleSava doesn't like either of the two groups. That's what makes them similar.

A homosexual is a Republican is a pimp is a Nazi. Get it?

	20-12-2003 09:51									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov He's referring to Limbaugh's Vietnam draft deferment.

And Franken's Vietnam record is...?

Oh, wait: he didn't go either.

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT You are Sava's DL, aren't you? But you're right - one person calling a woman a **** is so much worse than another killing 6 million people because of their religion.

Hitler didn't give a fvck about these guy's religion. Don't start me on the Holocaust, because it can get ugly.

Hitler was a shithead and genocidic bastard, true. But he was part of a MAJOR European crisis that ran from 1914 to 1945.

On the other hand, American imperialism is much more dangerous in that it springs from itself with no other reason than pleasing its huge corporations. And it is winning, while Hitler was obviously doomed to failure.
In such a way, we can consider it more dangerous. Remember, danger is about potential threat, not past one.

But still, we could run a "death-statistics" contest. Trust me, if we considered the death toll of Vietnam + all US supported wars and despotic regimes, and then add indirect deaths caused by their economic policy (starvations caused in part by agricultural subsidies, refusal to let African countries manufacture generic medications), America would not be very far from the top, along with such great leaders as Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: I am saying that a person who calls a respectable woman "a fvcking communkst cvnt", because she discloses his ties to the Republican Party is not a real gentleman. And what if he didn't want those ties disclosed for business reasons or something? Then the woman was out of line and deserved being called what she was.

But firstly he had not had time for a true philosophical discussion with her on the nature of communism, secondly if he did not want to have those tie to the Republican Party denied he could have invited her for a dinner. Clearly he had no experience in how to handle a feisty woman. And I thinK that has to do that he is homosexual.

	20-12-2003 09:56									#16
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Permit me to

Of course agricultural subsidies by other nations kill no-one, just American subsidies?

And how does Bayer feel about allowing African countries manufacture their latest meds?

Of course, if you want to pull statistics out of your ass, please, by all means, do so.

	20-12-2003 09:58									#17
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Are you drunk Sava?

	20-12-2003 10:01									#18
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I think this thread should be topped for its exceptional entertainment value, which seems to be improving with each new post by the thread starter.

	20-12-2003 10:03									#19
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No-one answer my hypothesis.

Is:

Republican supporters are homosexual.

Thesis rest on. They don't know how to treat women correctly. Not even when it is startegic.

	20-12-2003 10:07									#20
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quote: On the other hand, American imperialism is much more dangerous in that it springs from itself with no other reason than pleasing its huge corporations. And it is winning, while Hitler was obviously doomed to failure. In such a way, we can consider it more dangerous. Remember, danger is about potential threat, not past one.

Also permit me to .

Because the expanse of the free market is just as bad as Hitler's genocide? If you believe that, then I got a bridge in Arizona I'd like to sell you.

	20-12-2003 10:10									#21
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"They don't know how to treat women correctly. "

Believe it or not, for Xmas (and because I'm bored) I asked my wife to participate in an "Ask Mrs. JohnT anything" thread, and she agreed. You can ask her then if Republicans know how to treat women properly.

	20-12-2003 10:11									#22
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Permit me to Of course agricultural subsidies by other nations kill no-one, just American subsidies? And how does Bayer feel about allowing African countries manufacture their latest meds? Of course, if you want to pull statistics out of your ass, please, by all means, do so.

I said "caused in part". IN PART.
Never said the others are any better. USA are the worse because they are the most powerful, that's all. Nothing else. Throughout history, the worst usually came from the most powerful ones. Now that doesn't come out of my ass. Plain logics, that is.

And Bayer? Remember "indirect deaths caused by economic policy". Indirect. Which means USA is valuing Bayer's profits over the life of millions. Fine. Now they are working to make it stay that way. Increase the length of patents duration. Impose economic sanctions against governments trying to manufacture their own drugs. Now I love the way you put it: "how does Bayer feel?". That's correct.

US government=Bayer. I call this a threat.
Personnally, how do YOU feel? would you rather allow millions to be cured, or see Bayer's president get a few more millions in stock-options?

Saying "all right, countries with X AIDS problems or X poverty can make their own" is not hard at all.

But since US GOVERNMENT=BAYER+MEDIA TRUSTS, they'll make sure you don't even want this to happen. If ever you do, they still have the police and the army.

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quote: Originally posted by Tripledoc No-one answer my hypothesis. Is: Republican supporters are homosexual. Thesis rest on. They don't know how to treat women correctly. Not even when it is startegic.

Homosexuals can't treat women correctly? Considering you seem to have a problem with treating human beings correctly, making this charge is laughable.

I'm hoping this is all just a troll, because if you're really this brayingly stupid, I have to wonder how you survived this long without poisoning yourself on lead paint chips at some point.

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quote: Which means USA is valuing Bayer's profits over the life of millions.

Bayer's profits allow it to save billions (through R&D). So would you rather see, millions or billions dead? Looks like you picked billions, you butcher .

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This thread is amusing.

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quote: Originally posted by Winston I think this thread should be topped for its exceptional entertainment value, which seems to be improving with each new post by the thread starter.

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quote: Also permit me to . Because the expanse of the free market is just as bad as Hitler's genocide? If you believe that, then I got a bridge in Arizona I'd like to sell you.

My point is:

1. It has BEEN devastating, but not as much as Hitler's genocide. But we are still talking millions of people here, remember.
2. It has the POTENTIAL to become worse. Have you had any news from Bolivia recently? Probably not. America offered a few bucks of economic "help" that will probably end up in the president's bank account. In return, Bolivia agreed to sell public-held electricity and water companies to American corporations (at ridiculous cost). Prices are on the rise, less people can afford to have such basic commodites. Angry mob protests. 70 deaths. What does the US have to say: "the Bolivian government was legitimately defending itself against dangerous revolutionaries".
Events like this happen a few times every week throughout the world.

	20-12-2003 10:21									#28
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quote: And Bayer? Remember "indirect deaths caused by economic policy". Indirect. Which means USA is valuing Bayer's profits over the life of millions. Fine. Now they are working to make it stay that way. Increase the length of patents duration. Impose economic sanctions against governments trying to manufacture their own drugs. Now I love the way you put it: "how does Bayer feel?". That's correct.

Bayer is a German company. Being European, I thought you would know that. If you don't like how they conduct business, go and whine at the Germans.

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quote: It has BEEN devastating, but not as much as Hitler's genocide. But we are still talking millions of people here, remember.

Overall, it's been a benefit, so no, I wouldn't say it was devestating. It's been good for the world. At least you can admit SOME good has come from it, which is more than you can say for the genocide.

quote: It has the POTENTIAL to become worse.

And also much better. Everything has the potential to become worse. It will still be a net gain.

	20-12-2003 10:27									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Homosexuals can't treat women correctly? Considering you seem to have a problem with treating human beings correctly, making this charge is laughable. I'm hoping this is all just a troll, because if you're really this brayingly stupid, I have to wonder how you survived this long without poisoning yourself on lead paint chips at some point.

I never said that homosexuals can't treat woman correctly. Homosexual can treat woman very good.

However many socalled 'butch' homosexuals have very bad experience with woman. They stay in trenches too long. Or they are in strange schools. Or they are too long with stockbrokers.