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Tripledoc
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Originally posted by MrFun
I really don't care anymore what your thoughts are in this thread since you have no qualms about using stereotypes when talking about homosexuals. |
They are not stereotyopes. They are totally accepted in social and historical studies. So free me from your political correctness, which is in my opinion totally misguided.
The idea that disrespect of women and ethnic minorities should not spring from an especially virulent form of male masculine homosexuaity, springs from the same PC school which seeks to lower any ethnic minority to an hyphenated -American.
And quite frankly, If the right is what turns gays on and vice versa, then so be it.
But that this should hurt the repute of ethic minorities and women I find simply disgusting.
Everyone knows that there is a connection between 'butch' homosexuality and Fascism, so it would be idiotic to hide the fact.
Especially since it is the 'normal' homosexuals which are being put into camps.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
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I checked the Czech Budweiser and Anheuser-Busch Budweiser thing out... my professor was half-wrong on that as though they are seperate companies, they've been fighting over having the same name for over a century and it was not the result of a clever Adolphus Busch II stealing a German beer company's name after the first world war.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
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Mazarin:
yeah seems like it was Merck that he meant not Bayer though I am positive he said Bayer and not Merck especially because he mentioned that the Bayer logo of the vertical and horizontal Bayer name making a cross was the same on the pills of 'both' companies. so he did say Bayer though.
what does this mean? college professors are incompetent liars?
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Oncle Boris
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Once in a brown moon
Aug 2001
time: 00:32
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Originally posted by JohnT
Yes, and "bribery" works so well, hence no corporate income tax, no Sherman/Clayton anti-trust acts, no governmental regulatory bodies, nothing. Our entire history is a sham, a lie told us by the "Textbook Monopolists" who want us to believe that governments hold all the power, when in fact, it is Hewlett-Packard that controls the Navy and PepsiCo the Army.  |
Please, JohnT:
1. Who is it for that war in Iraq was waged?
2. In Vietnam?
3. Why was Salvador Allende killed?
4. Why was it the the CIA supported anti-Sandinist guerilla?
If you answered either "Halliburton", "Money" or "Lockheed-Martin" to any of these questions you are obviously wrong.
There is something Machiavelli calls "Comfort and Indifference": people don't complain when they enjoy a decent standard of life.
This is needed for two reasons:
1. As Ford pointed out, at someplace someone ought to be able to frenetically consume the goods they produce.
2. To these places, bring some simulacre of justice, such as Medicare and anti-trust regulations. When that is done, the corporations aren't happy anymore. They then call for globalization- an economical doctrine by which they can exploit the world's workforce and resources to increase their profit and enrich their home country (so as to hide international crimes with local wealth). One of the greatest realization of this doctrine are the "free-zones", where the civil law does not apply. Nike makes extensive use of these in order to employ children and pay them even less than the already low minimal wage of thirld world countries. Did you know that peasants in Haiti protesting against such implantations were massacred by the army a few years ago, with full US support and acknowledgment?
Through exploitation of third world, nurture your country's wealth and claim it to be the result of free market. Use media trusts to convey your false messages to the population. Of course, the media world is probably the less regulated field regarding free-trade. Still wondering why?
So now, is that a shame? yes.
Is your history a lie? as the Republicans would want you to believe, yes. However, many AMERICAN historians have written independant and unbiased books depicting this. Go to your public library and read them before they feel like spoliating you this right.
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:32
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Originally posted by Tripledoc
Ok. I'm reading Al Franken (Jewish BTW) and I think he makes a pretty strong case that many famous media personalities who where until this moment totally unbeknownst to me, are in fact "greedy, evil, warmongering bigots.
And the funny thing is that they all support the Republican Party.
So:
For instance when Richard Mellon Scaife, a giver of 35$ million to the Heritage foundation, funded numerous other institutions like the Cato institute, the Hoover institution,the American enterprise Institute, and many more, called a journalist, and I quote:
"You ****ing commuist cvnt" and said, she was ugly and her teeth terrible, and when he bid her good-bye said to her "Don't look behind you!".
, well then i would just have to ask whether the socallled liberal segment of the American society is going to stand to accept this bvllsheet.
And what about push polls. Those who know are in the "know".
Well. As a European I would just have to say that the Republican Perty now stands for me as the most ultimate form of evil the world has ever seen. More evil than the Nazi party because it has more power, and it is much more dishonest. You just don't treat a woman that way. |
you don't ever treat a woman that way? 
some women deserve to be treated like that. Are you one of those people who think women are special and should be put on a pedestal and can do no wrong?
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Oncle Boris
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Once in a brown moon
Aug 2001
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Originally posted by JohnT
Yes, and we know those "other" people just aren't smart enough to enact their own laws ala the West. Good thing they have people like you to patronize them, dontcha think?  |
It seems like you haven't got anything more to say, but I'll reply anyway.
I take it that those people are "Third World" countries citizens?
I mean, why was Saddam elected? Oh wait, he ruled BY FORCE. What about Pinochet? Oh wait, his military junta mass-murdered all of his opposants. I guess he was unable to achieve superiority over guerillas because the US didn't support him?
And Hitler then? Good thing you ask. People massively voted against him when he murdered the deputies of the communist party and claimed there would be no more elections.
I'm not patronizing anyone. I'm fullfillig my duty as an human being trying to defend fundamental rights, however naive that may sound. It seems like peaceful debates is a good way to go, don't you think?
Yet again, if the entire planet ever manages to get out of misery, we have another problem on hand: if everyone lived as an average American citizen, we would need 11-times the natural ressources the Earth is providing right now. But I guess Greenpeace is a bunch of retarded free-market hindering dickheads.
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:32
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Originally posted by Tripledoc
They are not stereotyopes. They are totally accepted in social and historical studies. So free me from your political correctness, which is in my opinion totally misguided.
The idea that disrespect of women and ethnic minorities should not spring from an especially virulent form of male masculine homosexuaity, springs from the same PC school which seeks to lower any ethnic minority to an hyphenated -American. |
Whose idea? Right-wing apologists seeking to exculpate their heterosexual brethren from the atrocitiies of Nazism my blaming it on a homosexual conspiracy? Show me these social and historical studies that pin the evils of racism and sexism on homosexuals. I can't wait to see where they come from.
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Everyone knows that there is a connection between 'butch' homosexuality and Fascism, so it would be idiotic to hide the fact.
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Yeah, just like everyone "knows" your stupid claim that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/etc. are homosexuals. Where's your proof? Yeah, some German author lamely tried to paint Hitler as a homosexual based on precisely 0 evidence, which is funny because "everyone" also knows Hitler had a thing for his neice. Sure, Roehm was gay, but he and his circle were exterminated pretty early on in the Nazi rise to power.
The only people who "know" this are those mentioned above. People like you want to distance yourself from Nazism by blaming it on another group, so you target homosexuals. Pathetic.
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Tripledoc
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Originally posted by MrFun
That's funny -- I wager that the majority of homosexuals are liberal, not right-wing.
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Maybe the open ones who like to parade on Castro street. Naturally the rightwings are safely in the closet.
Well in some cases liberals are even more rightwing than conservatives. the American concept of 'liberal' is utterly perverted.
However I doubt that any meaningfull investigation has been made to find out what the political afiliation of gay voters are. And BTW does it not strike you as equally bigoted to claim that all gays are 'liberal'.
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Tripledoc
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Originally posted by Q Cubed
i'm straight and ned says i should be republican. how does that affect your allegation that all rightists are gay? |
You are not a politician.
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:32
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Originally posted by Tripledoc
Maybe the open ones who like to parade on Castro street. Naturally the rightwings are safely in the closet.
Well in some cases liberals are even more rightwing than conservatives. the American concept of 'liberal' is utterly perverted. |
So...your argument boils down to this:
"All right-wingers are closeted homosexuals lashing out against women and minorities. Now, I can't prove this claim, conveniently, since they're closeted, but I can state that men who exercise, or marry women I consider ugly, or who are shy, must ipso facto be homosexuals if I happen to disagree with their politics. And while I repeat there are studies backing me up, I can't produce a single one."
Yes, there's a sound argument if ever I've heard one. I'm amazed they haven't asked you to sit in on the McLaughlin group, considering your astonishing insight.
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And BTW does it not strike you as equally bigoted to claim that all gays are 'liberal'. |
MrFun didn't say all gays were liberal, he said he'd wager a majority of them were. If you can't see the difference between those two statements, I'm afraid your spot on the McLaughlin Group will have to be revoked in favor of someone with coherent brain wave patterns.
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