21-01-2004 08:11									#421
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Maybe we could start a second tournament for those who didn't make it to Tournament one, but I don't think we should start that one before this tournament has been started....

im a little confused, what's the difference between starting a second tournament later and starting a second tournament now 4 the swarms of participants that seem 2 want 2 join this one as opposed 2 adding a game 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ...

	21-01-2004 09:04									#422
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Rommel2D: Spanish

Forget the Sammy Smith's, mas tequila!

	21-01-2004 09:20									#423
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D Forget the Sammy Smith's, mas tequila!

You would like some TEQUILA ?


As an advocate of all thungs British, I am saddened by your attitude, but as a publican, I am more than willing to help you with your loss.

	21-01-2004 15:49									#424
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quote: Originally posted by predesad im a little confused, what's the difference between starting a second tournament later and starting a second tournament now 4 the swarms of participants that seem 2 want 2 join this one as opposed 2 adding a game 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ...

I just wanted to be sure game 5 was in the air before starting a second tournament, otherwise it could end up a little confusing...

Does anyone Volunteer to be the one who starts up the second tournament, and keeps track on who plays which game and such?

	22-01-2004 11:28									#425
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Not me. This one's enough.

P.S.: I've recieved a password from Sir Osis for Game 6. He's the only player I've recieved a pw from so far for that game.

	22-01-2004 11:37									#426
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Does anyone Volunteer to be the one who starts up the second tournament, and keeps track on who plays which game and such?

I'd say give this tournament a little time to develop and see how the format goes. The official patch will probably be a good time to start another. In the mean time, we can keep record of who is interested.

	23-01-2004 20:10									#427
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Can we include Octavian X's email in the first post, also? Everybody knows about the time limit for turns, right?

	23-01-2004 20:29									#428
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D Can we include Octavian X's email in the first post, also? Everybody knows about the time limit for turns, right?

This is good stuff.

ADG & Octavian have done a great job, and I fully understand why they do not want to volenteer to set up and organise another Tournament at this time. Especially when we are only just getting the initial Thousand years done.

As to someone else coming forward, well it sounds very very quiet out there in the halls.

@ ADG, could the "time limit" for each turn please be added to the initial post on this thread.

	23-01-2004 20:49									#429
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Did we agree on a 24 hour limit?

But I don't remember having seen Oct X post his email, so I can't add it...

	23-01-2004 20:53									#430
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Why couldn't the winners of Games 1-4 play a game and the winners of Games 5-8 (assuming we get than many) play a game?

Then perhaps have a final game between the top 2 of those games.

	23-01-2004 20:55									#431
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Because 1 game takes a very long time to finish... two games (played after each other) takes double time... having a third game would then take a much longer time... the winner of this tournament wont be found until at least a few years then...

	23-01-2004 22:09									#432
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You have something better to do?

	24-01-2004 07:54									#433
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Well, it would be fitting for an Apolyton tournament to run on a 4 year olympiad schedule, but someone needs to convince me these 2 rounds will be finished in 4 years before I consider that 3 rounds could... :-/

	24-01-2004 09:34									#434
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Did we agree on a 24 hour limit? But I don't remember having seen Oct X post his email, so I can't add it...

I proposed a 24 hour limit, a few people said it was Ok, and nobody objected. As I pointed out before, after the time it takes to notice a delay, notify people and resend the save to Octavian X, it will probably end up like more of a 48 or 72 hour limit anyway...

Speaking of which, I just noticed we can't send attachments when clicking on the mail option in a person's posts. How should we send you turns, great torus-shaped pastry devotee?

Um, I know this is all pretty experimental right now, but if someone plays a turn without posting in the turn thread, there's no way to tell if they are causing a delay or if the turn is just slowly making its way around...

	24-01-2004 16:28									#435
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Yeah, people should start learning to post a 'sent' message in the turn threads... sure, one can miss from time to time, but missing each turn is too much...

	25-01-2004 02:56									#436
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We are into 3450BC

Ok, so I fiqure we are 12 turns for 12 days... 1 turn per day...

Hopefully we will pick up a few turns in the coming week - weeks.

We had a great initial run, then came off the rails for a day...

Basically we doing alright.

	25-01-2004 03:04									#437
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Yeah, people should start learning to post a 'sent' message in the turn threads... sure, one can miss from time to time, but missing each turn is too much...

i think posting a 'sent' message is a courtesy, maybe i have overlooked it, but dont recall seeing it listed as a requirement 4 the tournament, sure, i'll post the sent message when i'm able, but if i dont i dont.

	25-01-2004 04:09									#438
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quote: Originally posted by predesad i think posting a 'sent' message is a courtesy, maybe i have overlooked it, but dont recall seeing it listed as a requirement 4 the tournament, sure, i'll post the sent message when i'm able, but if i dont i dont.

I understand what you say here Predesad, as you are your own master etc.

Just a side point, alot of time has been saved several times in various PBEM games, when the people post that they have sent the save, then if it does not arrive within a good period of time, the next person has been able to back track it, and have it resent etc.

So to, I have seen days wasted where no post was made, so the next person politely waited for the save to arrive... and everything ground to a halt.

Yes, it is your option to post 'sent', but I believe that it is a good option, especially in keeping these Tournament games moving along.

	25-01-2004 04:38									#439
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I don't know if the notification went out to everyone in the tournament or just those in his game, but predesad has a herniated disc and will be going in for surgery next week. [Thanks for keeping up with your turns and good luck again.]

This brings up another issue for the tournament; should we allocate a certain amount of 'time off' for players who have vacations or other prearranged absences? Or should it be required that they find a substitute or default to Oct X? Is there a limit on how long a substitue can play for?

	25-01-2004 05:52									#440
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot I understand what you say here Predesad, as you are your own master etc. Just a side point, alot of time has been saved several times in various PBEM games, when the people post that they have sent the save, then if it does not arrive within a good period of time, the next person has been able to back track it, and have it resent etc. So to, I have seen days wasted where no post was made, so the next person politely waited for the save to arrive... and everything ground to a halt. Yes, it is your option to post 'sent', but I believe that it is a good option, especially in keeping these Tournament games moving along.

i agree w/ u here 100%, in fact some games i am in, instead of turn sent post, we send a reply email to the player letting them know we got the turn, it does help, but in my particular case, i am doing good right now 2 take the turns & would appreciate no complaints about my not posting the turn sent, its not like it happens every turn anyway, because it is a courtesy, not a requirement. normally it is something i would do 2 help move along the game, sometimes not always an option.

	25-01-2004 05:57									#441
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quote: Originally posted by predesad i agree w/ u here 100%, in fact some games i am in, instead of turn sent post, we send a reply email to the player letting them know we got the turn, it does help, but in my particular case, i am doing good right now 2 take the turns & would appreciate no complaints about my not posting the turn sent, its not like it happens every turn anyway, because it is a courtesy, not a requirement. normally it is something i would do 2 help move along the game, sometimes not always an option.

Hi Predesad,

no malice or ill intent meant your way in anyway shape or form.

	25-01-2004 07:04									#442
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quote: no malice or ill intent meant your way in anyway shape or form.

& i took no offense 2 ur comment whatsoever, Mr. Scot, & same 2 u

however this is a problem in game #1, I am the problem, i personally feel it should have been dealt w/ by email, pm, or even posting in the game 1 thread, but instead:

quote: Um, I know this is all pretty experimental right now, but if someone plays a turn without posting in the turn thread, there's no way to tell if they are causing a delay or if the turn is just slowly making its way around...

quote: Yeah, people should start learning to post a 'sent' message in the turn threads... sure, one can miss from time to time, but missing each turn is too much...

the problem was brought to the main tournament thread by two of my opponents and that i resent. obviously i am pissed right now, but-

quote: Originally posted by predesad One more time i woud like to ask ... put aside their differences, make peace and play the game ... what i am saying is all the whining, all the complaining, all the crying is making this tourney not fun ...

i think i'll just take my own advice i offered when there was another problem and i'll just shut up about it.

I would like 2 apologize 2 everyone in this thread for any inconvenience or discourtesy caused by the airing out of this problem i am causing in game 1.

	25-01-2004 07:43									#443
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Predesad, I didn't mean for you to be the focus of my comment. I've been watching the other turn threads and a couple seem to be lagging. I'll bet ADG noticed the same thing because some people in them aren't posting at all. AFAIK, this is a completely new process and we should work out the kinks as soon as possible. I think our game is actually going pretty well...

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	25-01-2004 08:05									#444
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Yes, Predesad, you are by not the only person not posting "sent".

	07-02-2004 21:11									#445
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We are into 2710BC

So I fiqure we are now 26 turns for 24 days. Just up on the 1 turn per day idea...

Basically we doing alright, staying the course.

How are the over games going?

	07-02-2004 23:21									#446
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Game 1 has reached 3000BC, we have had a few small delays, but nothing special... on the other hand, we also have had some great days: One day we managed to play 3-4 turns within a few hours

	08-02-2004 02:08									#447
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Game 3 has reached 2850BC. Seems to be going well.

	08-02-2004 16:21									#448
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Game 2 has reached 3450 BC. We had a small problem at the beginning, but now we´re cruisin´ along with a turn per day.

	09-02-2004 06:49									#449
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Game 5 seems to be at 3750BC. The add more players and turn limit ideas are working perfectly.

Maybe we should leave some donuts sitting around in the turn thread...?

	11-02-2004 11:11									#450
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I think we sort of agreed to use the 1.12 patch until the official one came out, but I get the feeling this might not have been followed by everyone. Are some people playing with unpatched or 1.15 versions? I'm wondering if upgrading to 1.15 will affect anything.

Does anyone know for sure if the corruption model is determined by whoever starts the game, refigured by the first player each turn, or what?