31-12-2003 22:50									#61
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP Its ok by me. The way I do it is I expand the small map full screen before I reveal the map, so I only see as much as everyone else sees, i.e. city positions, not unit positions or infrastructure, or city size, etc.

we always trusted you ozzzie..... those drugs made you too lovable ....

	02-01-2004 12:25									#62
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Alright folks.. I'll have a relatively new style animate map after second session tommorrow - likely Saturday night

	02-01-2004 17:26									#63
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I just talked to deity and it seems certain terraintypes were altered, hills giving only 50% defence bonus?

What else is changed and why didnt I hear this earlyer?

	02-01-2004 17:40									#64
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quote: Originally posted by atawa I just talked to deity and it seems certain terraintypes were altered, hills giving only 50% defence bonus? What else is changed and why didnt I hear this earlyer?

I'm really sorry about this. I used the HOTW modpak where that was a rules.txt change we'd talked about ages ago for HOTW games; but it wasn't changed back for this game. Frank, can you think of any other changes like that?

I've fixed the modpak and repost the rules.txt here

	02-01-2004 18:20									#65
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The specials still have lower vallues on both hill and mountains.

	03-01-2004 02:34									#66
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Um sorry. That was a mod used long ago to take away some of the advantages of plopping cities on mountainsides. Never intended for this game.

	03-01-2004 04:24									#67
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OK, I'm just double-checking eveything in the rules.txt and taking back to normal anything not discussed for this game... e.g. Fascism unit support, SS Thrust paradigm... still going through it

	03-01-2004 04:44									#68
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I went line by line with the default rules open on left of screen and our classic_diplo one on the right. These are the changes I noted.

Latest rules.txt

* Fascism unit support changed from 5 back to 10
(10 ; Fundamentalism pays support for all units past this)

* Changed to normal SS (NOT slowed)
(75 ; Mass/Thrust paradigm (increasing slows spaceship time))

* Fundy Science back to normal (was 30)
(50 ; Fundamentalism loses this % of science)

* all the terain and specials were completely replaced with the defaults

All other stuff about special units, techs etc that has been discussed is as per Zylka's last post on the matter (e.g. Modern Inf. attack reduced to 6 etc)
When in the game study the tech tree and the Civilopedia military units and ask any questions.

Attachment: rules.txt
This has been downloaded 5 time(s).

	03-01-2004 07:05									#69
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I'm terribly sorry about this guys. But my real life comes first. Just found out i can't play.

	03-01-2004 07:32									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Makeo I'm terribly sorry about this guys. But my real life comes first. Just found out i can't play.

	03-01-2004 07:34									#71
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What was the final decision regarding trade limitation?

	03-01-2004 07:36									#72
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP What was the final decision regarding trade limitation?

EIGHT external roots

but only ONE for Makeo

AND NONE for atawa! LMAO D

	03-01-2004 07:40									#73
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I'll take the 8 after GL is done

	03-01-2004 08:10									#74
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Well Zylka. We waited 67 mins and you still didn't show.

WE played with Spain as AI and basically you are screwed

	03-01-2004 08:13									#75
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Anyone wants to take over Romans?

	03-01-2004 08:13									#76
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Zylk, we've played 3 turns and you've been chased back across the strait of Gibraltar. Not a bad piece of hitting, Deity...

	03-01-2004 08:24									#77
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quote: Originally posted by atawa Anyone wants to take over Romans?

Stay with it. Give the group one more chance?

	03-01-2004 08:26									#78
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So is "Ozzy's Classical Diplogame" the official title of this game? I'm doing an entry for the DiploFAQ. Deity and Zylka had as much, if not more, of a hand in shaping this game as I did. Weird for humble ol' Oz to have his name attached to a game. But thanks.

	03-01-2004 08:29									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Dylan Baker Zylk, we've played 3 turns and you've been chased back across the strait of Gibraltar. Not a bad piece of hitting, Deity...

Thanks! AI a bit tougher than Zylka though...

	03-01-2004 08:32									#80
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP So is "Ozzy's Classical Diplogame" the official title of this game? I'm doing an entry for the DiploFAQ. Deity and Zylka had as much, if not more, of a hand in shaping this game as I did. Weird for humble ol' Oz to have his name attached to a game. But thanks.

Yes, that's the title and you can take the full credit for the games success.....

	03-01-2004 12:27									#81
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Sorry guys, apparently I had to "go to jail" tonight

	03-01-2004 17:48									#82
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I am always interested to sub, but give me a notice, say one day in advance next time.

	03-01-2004 21:33									#83
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You played Monopoly?

	04-01-2004 02:58									#84
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quote: Originally posted by deity Stay with it. Give the group one more chance?

No worries, I was realy dissapointed though, we should set a rule where we play when at least 5 show.

We allready had one sub, might have gotten a second but the vote was not to play. Things like this will happen again though and if I make a commitment to play in a diplo at 3am saturday morning I expect to play.

	04-01-2004 07:56									#85
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quote: Originally posted by atawa No worries, I was realy dissapointed though, we should set a rule where we play when at least 5 show. We allready had one sub, might have gotten a second but the vote was not to play. Things like this will happen again though and if I make a commitment to play in a diplo at 3am saturday morning I expect to play.

Totally agree. The only reason I held back was because the key player, Zylka, was not here and I would have benefited the most from his absence.

But let's agree that from here on in, if 5 show we play. It's the responsibility of those that don't show to try and line up a sub. If not, we pick whoever is available from the civ players who are online. Failing that we play with AI - where no humans can attack or take advantage of the AI. If AI attacks you can bribe back any lost city and do what it takes to keep the AI out of you face (without war).

Does everyone agree to this?

	04-01-2004 08:51									#86
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Sounds good to me. I always seem to vote to play in these situations, then get out voted by 1. ^_^

You guys are kidding about the 3 turns right? Because after deity called it I was gone...

	04-01-2004 08:54									#87
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Rule sounds good to me. Believe me, I was as if not more dissapointed than y'all and tried to home as quickly as possible - also expedcted you to go ahead and play with someone subbing in such a situation. Let's try to schedule an earlier game for next week - available for 7-8:00pm EST?

	07-01-2004 19:56									#88
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Ok, I agree to the rule too. I can't start until 9pm though.

But for you diplogamers who want to get our very own civ group, please follow this link and do your best begging job. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=105859

	08-01-2004 03:10									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Frank Johnson Sounds good to me. I always seem to vote to play in these situations, then get out voted by 1. ^_^ You guys are kidding about the 3 turns right? Because after deity called it I was gone...

jj

	09-01-2004 18:16									#90
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So I guess everyone is around tonight?
I'll be home at 3am, give me a call if you want to start earlyer, I'm only about 10 min from my house.