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Harry Tuttle is offline Harry Tuttle

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Gee, they were right. The British must have supported this all along. After all the Royal Family does have German blood!? Must have been planned for centuries. By the Luminati. Even.

Does this mean Captain Nemo was a Communist or a freedom fighter? And where does Prof. Moriarty play into this? Charles? TripleDoc?

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Every single Arab state, as well as many non-Arab muslim states, list Islam as the state's official religion and require all Presidents/Prime Ministers to be Muslims. Why denounce one but not the other if their actions are the same? A bit of bias maybe?


Take Pakistan 97% of it population is Muslum so to be PM or President you must be Muslum just simple common sense. Pakistan set aside so many seats in they legulator bodies for
Christian and other non-muslum people. America doesnot do this at all.

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Until Europe and the United Nations begin to denounce all displays, preachings and teachings of anti-Semitism, peace is not possible. However, don't hold your breath as Europe and UN are well in to denoucing Israel in an uneven-handed way, labelling in its resolutions that the existence of Israel is racisim.

Nazi-like anti-Semitism is alive and well outside of the world of Islam and is quite apparent to the casual observer. That has to change first before we can even begin to think about changing the Nazism of the Muslim world.


Than America blind help of Israel is any better. It Israel didnot have America help Israel would have make peace along time ago.

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Than America blind help of Israel is any better. It Israel didnot have America help Israel would have make peace along time ago.



Yeah, because Israel would have been gone

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Every single Arab state, as well as many non-Arab muslim states, list Islam as the state's official religion and require all Presidents/Prime Ministers to be Muslims.

Even Syria? Most Muslims would not consider the sect of the current president (and his father), the Alawis (sp?) to be Muslim, although its hard to be sure since they're quite secretive...

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Than America blind help of Israel is any better. It Israel didnot have America help Israel would have make peace along time ago.


Charles, you need both sides to make peace. Israel has always been in favor of peace. ALWAYS.

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Israel: We offer you the sun, the moon and the stars just for peace in a war we won.

Arab Nations: Screw you. No way!

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Charles, you need both sides to make peace. Israel has always been in favor of peace. ALWAYS.


That flies against what severel Israeli leaders have written in their memoirs. If it had not been for the constant conflict the sort of economic dislocation and expropriation perpetrated against the Palestinians for the benefit of the Jewish proletariat would have been politically impossible. Therefore the state of Israel has followed a policy of increasing provocation and escalation.

Americans largely consider Israel their baby. Like the proud parent they enthuse, support and admire it. It is absolutely incomprehensible to them that their little offspring should be capable of doing wrong. However Israel is simply a state with ambitions and policies like any other states, although they are placed in peculiar surroundings. Also Israel is one of the only allies the US has which can be called genuinely democratic, although strangely they have not adopted their constitution yet, a thing I gather Americans consider very important. Compared to other alliances the US has made in the past, it is of course very important that this one should be free from any criticism, which is why the official media in America present a frankly untrue picture of the conflict. In fact one is often disturbed by the frankness of Israelis defending their right to Greater Israel compared with the rather sentimental lies Americans often purport.

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Also Israel is one of the only allies the US has which can be called genuinely democratic, although strangely they have not adopted their constitution yet, a thing I gather Americans consider very important.


Neither has the UK. OTOH, IIRC, North Korea has a constitution. Constitutions mean diddly squat.

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Neither has the UK. OTOH, IIRC, North Korea has a constitution. Constitutions mean diddly squat.


Except that the document making the state of Israel official specifically calls for the creation of a constitution.

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Charles, you need both sides to make peace. Israel has always been in favor of peace. ALWAYS.


They sure donot act like they want peace. First Israel act like the orginal inhabit of the land have no right. They are trying to destory the third most holy site in Islam The Dome of the Rock. Israel donot respect International Law at all. They are than Rogue nation run by terrorist.

 
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