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Exodus 20


The Ten Commandments

1 And God spoke all these words:

2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
3 "You shall have no other gods before [1] me.
4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
8 "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
12 "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
13 "You shall not murder.
14 "You shall not commit adultery.
15 "You shall not steal.
16 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance 19 and said to Moses, "Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die."
20 Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning."
21 The people remained at a distance, while Moses approached the thick darkness where God was.


Idols and Altars
22 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites this: 'You have seen for yourselves that I have spoken to you from heaven: 23 Do not make any gods to be alongside me; do not make for yourselves gods of silver or gods of gold.
24 " 'Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, [2] your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you. 25 If you make an altar of stones for me, do not build it with dressed stones, for you will defile it if you use a tool on it. 26 And do not go up to my altar on steps, lest your nakedness be exposed on it.'


Footnotes

1. 20:3 Or besides
2. 20:24 Traditionally peace offerings


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1. "You shall have no other gods before Me." Have you always put God first in your life? Jesus said to love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength-- so much, that your love for your parents, brothers and sisters, friends, and even your own life is like hatred compared to your love and devotion for God. Have you ever failed to put Him first in your life?

2. "You shall not make for yourself any idol."
Who is God to you? Is he only a god of love and mercy who would never judge anyone and never cast anyone into Hell? If that's your god, then you're right. Your god couldn't cast anyone into Hell because he doesn't exist. He's a figment of your imagination. You've created a god in your own mind that you're more comfortable with. You may call it your "personal belief," but God calls it idolatry. It's the oldest sin in the Book, and the Bible warns that idolaters will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

3. "You shall not take the name of God in vain."
Have you ever used God's name as a curse word? If you have, you've taken the holy name of God-- who gave you your life, your family, and everything precious to you-- and used it as a filthy, four-letter word. Hitler's name wasn't even despised enough to be used as a curse word! If you have used God's holy name in that manner, you are a blasphemer and the Bible says "God will not hold him guiltless who takes the name of the Lord in vain."

4. "Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy."
God commands that we set aside one day in seven. Have you ever been guilty of breaking this Commandment?

5. "Honor your father and your mother."
Have you always honored your parents in a way that's pleasing in the sight of God? Ask Him to remind you of the sins of your youth. You may have forgotten them, but God hasn't.

6. "You shall not murder."
Jesus warned "Whoever is angry with his brother without cause, is in danger of judgment," (Matthew 5:22) and the Bible says, "He who hates his brother is a murderer," (1 John 3:15). God sees hatred in the heart to be as wicked as murder. We can violate His Law by attitude and intent.

7. "You shall not commit adultery."
Jesus warned," You have heard...'You shall not commit adultery.' But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Have you ever looked at another person with lust? The Bible says that adulterers and fornicators (those who have had sex before marriage) will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

8. "You shall not steal."
Have you ever stolen anything (even if it was something small)? The value of the thing stolen doesn't matter; petty theft is still theft. Have you ever taken anything that belonged to someone else (from the office, school, parents, etc.)? If you have, that makes you a thief.

9. "You shall not lie."
Have you ever told a lie? Then you are a liar. How many murders do you have to commit to be a murderer? Just one. If you have told even one lie, that makes you a liar. The Bible warns that all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 21:8). You may not think deceitfulness is a serious sin, but God does.

10. "You shall not covet."
This means we should never desire anything that belongs to another person. Not their house, nor their car, nor their money, nor their wife, nor their lifestyle, nor anything that belongs to our neighbor.

AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT NO MATTER WHAT GOD ALWAYS LOOKS AT THE , BUT IF CHRIST ISN'T THERE YOU WILL NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

REGARDLESS, IT'S STILL INTERESTING TO KNOW, WHICH COMMANDMENTS DID YOU MANAGE TO KEEP IN 2003?

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	01-01-2004 23:22									#2
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For ****s sakes.....

Is this for real? Well in any case, I didn't murder anybody. At least that's something. Broke the rest.

Huzza!

edit: Since MrNiceGuy got rid of the huge letters and doesn't seem like a nutter, there is no need to swear!

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	01-01-2004 23:26									#3
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Well I voted 7, then I read the post. I'm with EK. Oh, and the idolatry thing. If I don't believe in a God then I can't have an idol of one, surely.

	01-01-2004 23:30									#4
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I flirted with Islam for a while. Read the Koran, talked to an Imam. I'm still thinking about it, naturally I'd need to learn Arabic first.

Er... idols? apart from Islam....... I've worshipped the false idol of Mammon Also my editor, who I attempted to bow down to and make sacrificial offering.

	01-01-2004 23:30									#5
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1. sorry don't believe in you... but if it makes you feel better god, I don't believe in any other gods..

2. oops, I kind of do have an idea of what god might be like... and he isn't some boob who sends people to hell if they think the bible is fulla ****

3. god dammit jesus h christ, I sure ****ed this one up

4. every day is a sabbath for me but seriously, I ****ed this one up to because I kind of believe that you are good EVERY DAY, not just one in seven. But that's okay, but about 99.999% of America doesn't respect the notion of the sabbath, so I'll have company.

5. Sure, I love my parents... YAY I GOT ONE!

6. haven't murdered anybody... THAT'S TWO

7. never been married... THAT'S THREE

8. sure, I've "stolen" thing in the past... nothing major, but if god is going to send me to hell for stealing some gum when I was 8... then I don't want to worship such a nazi-god.

9. I try not to, but I'm sure I have. What about white lies? Should I tell the truth and say I think someone is ugly?

10. everyone covets... it's human nature... my life sucks and I want it to be better... if that makes me evil, then I'd rather be in hell... plus... isn't the idea of heaven based on the notion of coveting an eternal bliss?

Everyone should read these commandments carefully... only to realize how imperfect and full of **** they are. HUMAN BEINGS WROTE THESE THINGS. No god wrote them... and no god inspired "man" to write these things.

	01-01-2004 23:36									#6
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I first thought the opening post was an advertizement for some company or website, like we see sometimes.

Useless to say, I think the OP should drop the BIG LETTERS, or I'll cheer when a mod closes the thread or forces the low size.

	01-01-2004 23:42									#7
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WHY DON'T YOU LIKE BIG LETTERS SPIFFOR? DO THEY ANNOY YOU?!!!!

	01-01-2004 23:43									#8
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1.

I try to always put God first, but am afraid that at times I have failed.

2.

I think I have kept this one.

3.

I think I have kept this one too. I did say Damn once, which I don't think is correct.

4.

I try to keep the Sabbath day (which is Saturday) holy, but have not been too good at it this last year. I even bought something a couple weeks ago on a Friday night!!!

5.

I don't respect my mother much (because of her actions), I should change that.

6.

I don't hate anyone. In fact, I don't even seem to get angry. This one I think I have.

7.

I am an (unmarried) virgin, so some would say that I am good here. But I lust after women, so no good.

8.

I steal intellectual property. Never have any physical property.

9.

Unfortunately I lie all too often.

10.

I don't really want what others have, so I Think I am good here as well.

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That makes 4. There is really no reason for me to disrespect my mom (Even if she deserves it), so to change that one should not cost anything. I always need to put God first, but that is always a hard one for every person. Keeping the Sabbath should be doable, I use to.

Jon Miller

	01-01-2004 23:43									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I first thought the opening post was an advertizement for some company or website, like we see sometimes. Useless to say, I think the OP should drop the BIG LETTERS, or I'll cheer when a mod closes the thread or forces the low size.

And before you go thinking that any mod fixed that, I did it as per a request from you.

The letters were big that way before because that's the way it looks in the link.

	01-01-2004 23:47									#10
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Why does God need to be kept first? I mean, he's God! I think God, if he exists, would want us to put ourselves first. I mean, WE are the ones stuck on this miserable planet. He's the omnipotent, omniscient creator of all things. Why do we need to put him first? And does he even care if we do? I mean, if you were a God and created some insignificant creatures on some planet, would you give half a **** if they worshipped you?

Frankly, if God wanted me to put him first and all that BS, he would have told me so... not relied on some book that is thousands of years old that is not corroraborated as being HIS word.

	01-01-2004 23:49									#11
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I broke all of them except I forgot to murder anyone this year. Oh well.

Its all old Jewish rituals from 4,000 years ago anyway.

-Jam

	01-01-2004 23:53									#12
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a tentative 4, although like jon i have my doubts about #1.

and sava you don't get #7 just because you ain't tied the knot yet

	01-01-2004 23:53									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Sava 1. sorry don't believe in you... but if it makes you feel better god, I don't believe in any other gods.. 2. oops, I kind of do have an idea of what god might be like... and he isn't some boob who sends people to hell if they think the bible is fulla **** 3. god dammit jesus h christ, I sure ****ed this one up 4. every day is a sabbath for me but seriously, I ****ed this one up to because I kind of believe that you are good EVERY DAY, not just one in seven. But that's okay, but about 99.999% of America doesn't respect the notion of the sabbath, so I'll have company. 5. Sure, I love my parents... YAY I GOT ONE! 6. haven't murdered anybody... THAT'S TWO 7. never been married... THAT'S THREE 8. sure, I've "stolen" thing in the past... nothing major, but if god is going to send me to hell for stealing some gum when I was 8... then I don't want to worship such a nazi-god. 9. I try not to, but I'm sure I have. What about white lies? Should I tell the truth and say I think someone is ugly? 10. everyone covets... it's human nature... my life sucks and I want it to be better... if that makes me evil, then I'd rather be in hell... plus... isn't the idea of heaven based on the notion of coveting an eternal bliss? Everyone should read these commandments carefully... only to realize how imperfect and full of **** they are. HUMAN BEINGS WROTE THESE THINGS. No god wrote them... and no god inspired "man" to write these things.

quote: Originally posted by Sava Why does God need to be kept first? I mean, he's God! I think God, if he exists, would want us to put ourselves first. I mean, WE are the ones stuck on this miserable planet. He's the omnipotent, omniscient creator of all things. Why do we need to put him first? And does he even care if we do? I mean, if you were a God and created some insignificant creatures on some planet, would you give half a **** if they worshipped you? Frankly, if God wanted me to put him first and all that BS, he would have told me so... not relied on some book that is thousands of years old that is not corroraborated as being HIS word.

Wow! You're certainly in a mood.

Did you have a little too many drinks throughout the night, Sava?

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Thank you for shrinking the letters Mr Nice Guy. Now, it looks like a serious post. Before, it reminded me more of a spam for penis enlargment pills

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quote: Wow! You're certainly in a mood. Did you have a little too many drinks throughout the night, Sava?

He's been like that for a while now. "Fallen off into the mental deep end" is how its been described.

	01-01-2004 23:55									#16
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Mr. Nice Guy: It's not a mood... its a way of life

C0ckney: well I've never cheated on a GF either... so

btw, how is cheating on a SO worthy of a commandment? I mean... shouldnt' THOU SHALL NOT TORTURE PEOPLE be more important?

How come physical violence isn't in the commandments? but adultery is? WTFZ?

and where's the commandment about poisoning the earth? Surely god knew that humans would have the technology to poison the earth...

	01-01-2004 23:57									#17
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it's not about cheating sava, it's about sleeping with someone outside of marriage, and i'm guessing most of us are guilty of that one

	01-01-2004 23:58									#18
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Oh, and I'm extremely glad to have spat on the first two commandments. It should be mandatory to do so

	01-01-2004 23:59									#19
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney it's not about cheating sava, it's about sleeping with someone outside of marriage, and i'm guessing most of us are guilty of that one

It is also about lusting for someone other than your wife, regardless if you do them or not

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nice to see your live and let live attitude there spiff

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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney it's not about cheating sava, it's about sleeping with someone outside of marriage, and i'm guessing most of us are guilty of that one

gee... I guess every human being (probably over 100 billion) who exist before marriage became a popular custom are burning in hELL!!



why does god care about human sexuality anyways? I mean, isn't our spiritual existence seperate from out physical existence in this world? Sex is basically a biological means of getting us to reproduce. The expression of love is what is supposed to be between two souls... but yet, god isn't concerned about that love. He only cares about where I put my winky?? give me a break...

that commandment alone should be proof enough that it's all bullshit...

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor It is also about lusting for someone other than your wife, regardless if you do them or not

hence most of poly are guilty of that one

	02-01-2004 00:03									#23
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what about lusting over a fictitious woman? is that a violation of that commandment?

	02-01-2004 00:03									#24
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And anyone who has felt hatred towards anyone doesn't get #6 either.

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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy And anyone who has felt hatred towards anyone doesn't get #6 either.

YAY! Then I've broken all the rules!

	02-01-2004 00:12									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Sava gee... I guess every human being (probably over 100 billion) who exist before marriage became a popular custom are burning in hELL!!

quote: Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT JESUS ALWAYS FORGIVES IF YOU ACCEPT HIM INTO YOUR .

	02-01-2004 00:30									#27
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Many, including Sava, may say that these commandments are ridiculous and that's it's inhuman to follow them, but I don't think God expects every Christian to follow them perfectly, especially if you are new to the faith. He does however, expect every Christian to mature in the faith and improve over time.

Take me for example. When I was new to the faith I struggled with all but the first commandment. But I've been a Christian for nearly 6 1/2 years, and today I only struggle with two of them, but I won't say which two. It's an "art" I've been perfecting for a long time now.

	02-01-2004 00:31									#28
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How many of these commandments did the Biblical "God" keep?

	02-01-2004 00:47									#29
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so Mr. Nice Guy... could Hitler be in heaven if he accpeted Jesus right before he died?

sounds like a cop out clause... or a technicality.

I also find the idea that faith is paramount to be offensive... sorry, but if I was a god and people didn't believe in me, I'd at least stress the idea that KILLING AND STEALING were more important than some insignificant belief in me.

	02-01-2004 00:59									#30
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quote: Originally posted by gamenaught How many of these commandments did the Biblical "God" keep?

Do as I say, not as I do!


So, looks like I kept 5 out of ten. I get #1 on a technicality, since it's rather difficult to put one god before another when one believes in none. #2 was also technically kept, as I've never made any graven image for worship. I get #6 and #7 easily, as I've never killed anyone and adultery isn't really in the cards (but just to be sure, I've never cheated, either). And I give myself #8, although I suppose someone could quibble that any time spent at work not actually working is "stealing." And I say, screw those people!