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Ming is offline Ming
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Check the polls in the Morning... and see who is number one... The BCS is only part of the picture

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Watching this game tonight, both teams look worse than not only USC, but also Michigan, Ohio State, and Kansas State. Not to mention Georgia.


The results of the 2nd annual GGNCAACFT:

In the preliminary round, #8 seed Boise State bested #9 Utah, 44-20, in the Holiday Bowl.

Hopelessly outmatched and outgunned in the quarterfinals, the Broncos gave it a valiant effort in a 29-10 loss to #1 seed Oklahoma at the Fiesta Bowl. In other quarterfinal action, #5 seed Florida State survived a stirring fourth-quarter rally by #4 Michigan, and won 40-38 in the Peach Bowl. In the Cotton Bowl, #6 Miami (FL) outplayed #3 USC to the tune of 28-17. And in the CapitalOne Bowl, #2 LSU had the scare of their lives against #7 Miami (OH), but hung on to win a 21-19 nailbiter.

Semifinal action saw an absolute whipping in the Orange Bowl, as the Seminoles were pulverized by the Sooners, 55-10. And in the Rose Bowl, the Tigers outgunned the Hurricanes, 37-31.

And so, the Sugar Bowl of the 2nd annual GGNCAACFT showcased the same two teams in the so-called "National Championship Game" taking place tonight in the real Sugar Bowl. The result here on the little purple box on top of my TV:

Oklahoma 52
LSU 24

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Michigan got whacked. They are so low...they shouldn't even be in a bowl. They really sucked. A little girl could beat them up.

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Obviously, your knowledge of college football is limited at best, and all you are doing is trolling... and doing a bad job of it.

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how bout them fighting Illini. Go injuns!!!

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Congratulations to LSU on their national championship.

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Yeah... congrats to LSU as a co national champion.

Another year where the BCS screwed it up... a classic example of why the NCAA should take over their own championship

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Yep.... the NCAA should take its own championship over. LSU looked great in the beginning of the game, but almost gave it away in the last quarter. USC seems better than both.

Co-national champions... ah the BCS has totally 100% failed.

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ah the BCS has totally 100% failed.


Which will make your whining that much sweeter when the BCS stays around for years to come.

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And college football continues to remain the bush league joke that it already is .

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You seem to be watching it, as are millions of other people.

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Doesn't stop it from being a joke. After all, millions watch 'Joe Millionaire'.

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The college presidents understand what makes college football so great. Thank god they're in control...

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"I have sat in a room with the presidents," said Tranghese, referring to the presidential oversight committee. "It's not going to happen. From the beginning, our presidents said, don't engage in a discussion about a playoff. We've asked them."


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/colum...ivan&id=1700240

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The college presidents understand what makes college football so great.


Or rather what makes it bush league. They are worse than MLB owners.

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They're nothing like MLB owners. MLB owners are greedy bastards who'll do anything to make more money. College presidents are passing up the greater revenues that a playoff would provide to maintain the integrity of the game. God bless them.

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MLB owners are greedy bastards who'll do anything to make more money.


College Presidents are greedy bastards who'll do anything to make more money. The Bowl system bring in more money for the big conferences and schools than a playoff. A playoff would spread that wealth around more. The big conferences would lose out.

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The Bowl system bring in more money for the big conferences and schools than a playoff.


That's not what Mike Tranghese said...

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one more game now between lsu and usc

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Why would LSU want another game? They already have the real national championship trophy...

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But only half of the real national championship .

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And even the BCS went on record and said how the system failed this year... and that they will be making big changes for next year. I guess they could no longer ingore how stupid they looked this year, and finally admitted that they screwed it up. They are talking about adding the human element like they do for March Madness... and using the computer as just another tool in the seleciton process. About time.

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Selection committee is a bad, bad, bad idea.

I thought the whole point of the BCS was to acknowledge the fact that human polls are sometimes wrong.

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Yeah... but their system this year couldn't deliver the number one team in both major polls to the championship game. They admit they were wrong... they are trying to make some changes to show they care.... but all they really care about is maintaining their grip on the sport. It's time for the NCAA to take back control of THEIR sport.

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I thought the whole point of the BCS was to acknowledge the fact that human polls are sometimes wrong.


I thought it was to get a 'true' undisputed national championship by talking a shitload of polls and averaging out who was really 1 and 2.

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Selection committee is a bad, bad, bad idea.

I thought the whole point of the BCS was to acknowledge the fact that human polls are sometimes wrong.


The very nature of college sports, I think, warrants selection committees. Too many teams, too little time to implement a truly fair system like a football playoff.

Yeah, as little as I know about college football, the BCS is a joke. But any substitute is still going to require a subjective selective process.

That said, I would like to see a six-team bowl system spread out over 2 weeks. A national Champ. game one week over new years. It would still be a joke, but less of one.

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They are going to have the same problem every time there are more than 2 teams with the same record. You could concievably have 3 unbeatens. Or 5 teams with a single loss. It is going to be a problem any time that happens (if you want a clear victor, you need a playoff structure.)

But if you are going to stay with the bowls...and you are going to have the BCS attempting to get champions, then the current system makes sense. It makes sure that bowls don't have teams locked up so they can't compete. And it gets the two teams with best schedule (and same record) to the table.

All that crap about losing early or late or who you lost to or if it was in a conf championship is silly in my book. Strenght of schedule is a HUGE factor.

But net, net...I would be just as happy not to have a playoff and not to have BCS. Just go back to the old days of bowl games. That is what the PAC10 wants.

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And I was banned for my sports opinion. (I don't really beleive it...but I want to start this rumor.)

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Strenght of schedule is a HUGE factor.


A 'HUGE' factor that you have hardly any control over. The only control is out of conference opponents, and they may all suck that year (like USC's did this year). You can't just magically make your conference foes better.

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Either do that or a playoff. None of this half-way ****!

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actually teams in college have way more control of strength of schedule than teams in the pros. In any case, regardless of their control, their is more accomplishment in defeating a tougher slate.

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just add one more game after all the bowl games...

 
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