06-01-2004 10:50									#91
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GROSS PRODUCT IN YEAR 2001
(billions of dollars)
1 United States $10,171
2 Japan 4,245
3 Germany 1,874
4 United Kingdom 1,406
CALIFORNIA 1,392
5 France 1,303
6 China 1,159
7 Italy 1,091
8 Canada 677
9 Mexico 618
10 Spain 577

http://commerce.ca.gov/ttca/pdfs/de...GSP_Ranking.pdf

my work here is done

	06-01-2004 10:50									#92
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither All the lovely pink bits. Those are us. Enough lovely pink bits in fact, to be able to tell the Germans to stuff it when no one else was left who cared or could do anything about it.

One Flag, One Fleet, One Empire

	06-01-2004 10:51									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor

Are you familiar with that jingo, Spiff?

	06-01-2004 10:52									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi As for Canadians not stepping up for the Yanks in Iraq, we tend to blame French influence.

**** off. We told them to go stuff it, and I'm actually proud of Chrétien for that.

	06-01-2004 10:53									#95
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither We leave the old bird to go her own way. We turn up when the issue is important. The Aussies are having a problem with the apron strings though. They seem to have gotten them entangled with that strange uncle.

	06-01-2004 11:00									#96
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UK is dead. I think France is slightly stronger than them in terms of raw influence because their foreign policy is more independant, and because Germany tends to be more friendly towards them

I think you guys are underestimating China. They've got ICBMs, and everyone is afraid of them. Even the US, who will never dare do something against Iran because they are China's oil suppliers. Look at what happened recently, about the US not supporting Taiwan's parliament? It says a lot about the shift of power in the world.
Japan is very strong in that the US badly needs them in the Asian strategic area. Their military spendings are higher than France and UK too, but lower than Russia and China.

And Canada? Don't make me laugh. I'd put Poland and Romania before them.

	06-01-2004 11:03									#97
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Ted Striker:

Let me doubt your numbers. France is twice as populated as California and yet you claim their GDP is lower? Hmmm, doubtful.

	06-01-2004 11:04									#98
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take it up with the World Bank not me

	06-01-2004 11:07									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor

Yes!!!!!!!!!

Another brownie point for me.

	06-01-2004 11:10									#100
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quote: We told them to go stuff it, and I'm actually proud of Chrétien for that.

Then why whine about the rebuilding contracts and the diplomatic snubs? The truth is that we could not have helped the US in Iraq and Afghanistan at the same time. Heck, we have to hitch rides with the Yanks just to get them to Iraq in the first place.

	06-01-2004 11:20									#101
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USA
China
UK
France
Israel
India
Pakistan
Russia
Germany
Japan

	06-01-2004 11:24									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Then why whine about the rebuilding contracts and the diplomatic snubs?

Who's whining about it?

quote: The truth is that we could not have helped the US in Iraq and Afghanistan at the same time. Heck, we have to hitch rides with the Yanks just to get them to Iraq in the first place.

And? We did more than not send a force; we also didn't expres approval, and expressed reserved disapproval. Sending actual aid was not a prerequisite for being on their "good" list; a quick scan of the nations they included will tell you that...

	06-01-2004 11:28									#103
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell 3. China More manpower than any other muthafukka on the PLANET

Wrong, IIRC North Korea has more (at least in terms of the number of people in the military).

	06-01-2004 11:34									#104
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1. Illuminati
2. Jehovas Witnesses
3. Stewe Irwin, Crocodile Hunter

	06-01-2004 11:35									#105
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1. The < J WORD >!!!!!

	06-01-2004 11:36									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker take it up with the World Bank not me

Well, there may be a mistake.

Everyone knows that France GDP is ~24,000$ per capita.
US GDP is ~$30,000$ per capita.

France pop: ~60 millions
California pop: ~ 30 millions.

I'm quite sure there must be a mistake somewhere, and not in my estimates.

	06-01-2004 11:38									#107
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1. Ming
2. James Bond
3. California
4. Luxembourg
5. Andorra
6. Sid
7. Brian Reynolds
8. Macedonia
9. Cuba
10. Texas

	06-01-2004 11:40									#108
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker 6. Sid 7. Brian Reynolds

You will burn in hell for this outrage.

	06-01-2004 11:42									#109
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I still think my list is the best so far, I might be willing to bump Israel out of the 10th slot for Italy or Canada though.

	06-01-2004 11:42									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar You will burn in hell for this outrage.

	06-01-2004 11:51									#111
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quote: we also didn't expres approval, and expressed reserved disapproval.

We sent 'em cash.

How hard can it be to avoid sending troops you don't have? Chretien did the only thing he could have done to save face.

As for the complaints, I've heard it from many Canadians who did not support Iraq. If we are going to stand up to the Yanks, we should be willing to accept the consequences.

	06-01-2004 12:11									#112
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1.UK
2.Prussia
3.France
4.Russia
5.Austria
6.The Baring Brothers

	06-01-2004 12:15									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi We sent 'em cash. How hard can it be to avoid sending troops you don't have? Chretien did the only thing he could have done to save face. As for the complaints, I've heard it from many Canadians who did not support Iraq. If we are going to stand up to the Yanks, we should be willing to accept the consequences.

a) We'll see what the WTO has to say aout that

b) We shouldn't have given them cash, but it was after war efforts were done, and was a fairly small amount

c) You bring up a point I've brought up before. Why should we give them cash if they're going to treat us like ****? No reason I can see. **** 'em.

	06-01-2004 12:27									#115
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	06-01-2004 12:28									#116
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You missed a spot, comrade.

	06-01-2004 12:31									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Saras 1.UK 2.Prussia 3.France 4.Russia 5.Austria 6.The Baring Brothers

However, by the time Prussia had defeated France it was practically Germany... so...

UK
Germany
France
Russia
~Japan?
America
Austria
Ottomans

	06-01-2004 12:42									#118
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See, the problem part with the British for all the rest of you tossers, is the Brits managed to create an empire who actually wanted and want to belong to it, even if they think it outmoded and too much of a burden today.

Even the Indians, who for reasons of their own go their own way, maintian links with the Imperial power and wouldn't trade English or cricket for anything. They are misguided in that cricket bit, but nobody's perfect.

So, go ahead comrade, have fun. As your empire of fear crumbled around you, you can think forlorn thoughts about how someone else actually got it right long before you tried, and their achivements will be remembered long after the dead husk of your tyranny is forgotten in the ash heaps of history.

Oh yes, and I fully expect some Aussie to flame this post.

	06-01-2004 12:46									#119
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quote: Oh yes, and I fully expect some Aussie to flame this post.

And while we're at it, why not a French-Canadian, YOU STOOPID WORTHLESS $CuMb@g?

	06-01-2004 12:49									#120
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Flambe from the French is a matter of course.