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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:33
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abortion has killed more blacks than slavery...
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:33
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In the past 30 years, 13 million Black American children have died as a result of legalized abortion.
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Sadly, however, Conyers, Rangel, Sharpton, et al. continue to miss the real story of racial disparity in casualty rates: the disproportionate numbers of black casualties in the war on the unborn. While Sharpton and the other Democratic presidential hopefuls celebrated the 30th Anniversary of Roe v. Wade at NARAL's gala, the black community continued to be decimated by abortion rates that are nearly three times the rate of whites.
The most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control indicate that while 56% of all women who obtained legal abortions were white, the abortion rate (the number of abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 per year) for black women was 2.9 times that of white women. For every thousand black women, 32 have abortions, as compared with 11 for every thousand white women. Likewise with numbers of abortions per 1,000 births: The abortions/births ratio for white women was 184 abortions per 1,000 live births; for black women, it was 543 abortions per 1,000 births. This means that abortion ratios for black women were 2.8 times greater than those for white women. Sadly, black women were also more likely to obtain riskier abortions late in their pregnancies, while white women were significantly more likely than black women to obtain abortions before 16 weeks.
While these data most likely reflect inequality in access to health care, data also indicate that the racial disparities in abortion rates have increased steadily since 1989. In some localities, including Mississippi, Louisiana, Maryland, and Georgia, more than half of all abortions are performed on black women. Black women in New York City and in the entire state of New Jersey receive more than 47% of all abortions performed there.
Comparisons by race cannot be made in California, because the state -- unlike any other state -- refuses to comply with requirements to report statistics on abortion. California's reporting requirement was enacted in 1967 as part of a larger abortion law called the Therapeutic Abortion Act. Yet even with the threat of losing federal funds, California has consistently refused to report its abortion data. Michael Quinn, the chief of California's office for health information, was recently quoted in a Catholic newspaper account as saying that "California does not actively collect abortion statistics because they are highly sensitive and highly political."
Abortion data -- like all casualty data -- are indeed sensitive. They reveal life-or-death decisions for women and unborn children and for this very reason should be disseminated widely. California needs to be encouraged to provide data on abortion.
For policymakers to address the real casualties among blacks would take courage -- far beyond the grandstanding on the military draft by Sharpton, Conyers, and Rangel. They might begin by listening to the poignant lyrics of hip-hop artist Nas in his recent mega-hit, "One Mic." Nas knows that his community has been devastated by abortion and in a courageous plea, the rapper simply asks women to stop abortion because "we need more warriors here." |
she got the quote wrong... it's, "don't abortion your womb, we'll need more warriors soon" point still stands though
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:33
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No Cries of Racism for Black Babies
R.D. Davis, Huntsville, Al. August 25, 2001
Since abortion has been legal since Roe vs. Wade, more than 12 million unborn black lives have been exterminated. Although blacks comprise only 12% of the population, they have 35.8% of abortions, according to the Center for Disease Control statistics. This is genocidal. Where are the frequently ubiquitous cries of racism from the so-called black leaders? Why are the black ministers silent, especially in public, on abortion. (When was the last time you read an article against abortion written by a black clergyman. Somebody has to do it) Because of this silence, our black race is becoming desensitized to a potential genocide of our race. This becomes especially worrisome when some black ministers believe that abortion is a “white issue”, like I have heard and know about.
The silence bears the culpability for the genocidal destruction of our black babies. It allows Planned Parenthood, which is heavily supported legislatively by the Democratic Black Caucus, to carry on founder, Margaret Sanger’s aim for her Negro Project. The “Negro Project” goal was to contain the inferior races through segregation, sterilization, birth control and later, abortion. Blacks with their votes are helping with the racist’s goal of limiting the population of our race.
The summer issue of the Black Americans for Life newsletter reports that the “Negro Project” has really taken effect in New York City. The New York State Department of Health statistics indicate that among the black population abortions exceeded births in New York City, with 49,235 abortions 40,481 births in 1997, the latest year for which statistics are available.
This disparity is only, I repeat, only with the black race. It does not exist for other populations. For example, the statistics for Brooklyn revealed there were 31,500 black peoples aborted and only 23,700 born during 1997, while births of white babies totaled a little over 37,000 and abortions just over 18,000, which is less than half. With the Hispanic population, there were 19,000 babies born and slightly more than 12,000 babies aborted.
In Brooklyn, Catholic Bishop Thomas V. Daily referred to abortion as “a form of black genocide”. “Fifty –seven percent of black babies are aborted in our diocese, he told a predominantly black congregation at St. Catherine of Genoa Church in Flatbush. He also expressed his sorrow over the imminent closing of a childcare agency within his diocese because, “We just don’t have enough children to care for. Too many are dying before they get to us,” he said.
Bishop Dailey and Msgr. Philip Reilly, director of the Helpers of God’s Precious Infants, led a precession to a medical center where more than 2,000 late-term abortions are done per month. Participants in the procession prayed, sang hymns and handed out literature about abortion alternatives to those entering the building. Members of the group report that many unborn babies are saved when there is a prayer vigil at the clinic.
Many more unborn black babies would be saved if the black ministers and politicians would take a public stand against this racist genocide and cry out “Racism!” However, this will never happen because Planned Parenthood and the Democratic politicians have “conditioned” blacks to blindly support the “Negro Project”. A race that does not respect the lives of its unborn is destined to become extinct. “Negro Project”—completed. |
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:33
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and this is not a threadjack... the original article talked about the basis of the two sides of the roe vs wade issue. i am quoting articles referencing an entire viewpoint not mentioned in the original article.
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Jon Miller
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I am prolife
am I rightwing?
Jon Miller
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:33
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wannabe? i have never once claimed to be black. i dont see why people just assume it?
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:33
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Originally posted by Albert Speer
Gepap, fortunately, my hispanic sisters, for whatever reasons, seem to have relatively few abortions as compared to Black women. thank god for that.
the problem Patroklos is that usually, we're talking about fairly young women here who have been mis-educated by Democrat-controlled local, urban school districts and a pro-abortion media which causes many Black women to not realize the full implications of their actions until it is too late.
like the second article said, too few Black community leaders (like preachers, etc.) have talked about this issue. Reggie White is probably the only one with some fame (and who takes a football player too seriously?  ) |
"The full implications"? If your sisters listened to those liberals they would not be getting pregnant as often-since they would practice safe sex- but you conservatives act like if people didn;t have sex, so you demand sex ed be cut, and thus allow for more abortions by sticking your fingers in your ears and going blah, blah, blah.
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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
time: 21:33
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http://www.kahane.org/political/2.html
Regarding Jews in Israel and abortion in Israel.
The date of article is back in 1991, so the numbers will be higher.
Abortions (11/91)
Translated by Lenny Goldberg
Abortions In Israel: More Than a Million Victims in 47 Years
This column is dedicated to one of the most shocking, yet relatively undiscussed subjects - abortions in the State of Israel. There is an organization called "Efrat" whose primary goal is to increase the number of births of Jewish children in Israel. This group, which works with wonderful "msirus nefesh" in fighting the astronomical number of abortions in Israel, asked us to write about this subject for Parshat Shmot. Considering the critical nature of the matter, we are more than happy to fulfill this request. The fact is that he who remains quiet concerning the issue of elective abortions becomes a partner to this atrocious mass murder.
As society increasingly depicts abortions as representing"progress" and "womens rights", the statistics regarding it have becomemore and more staggering. According to "Efrat", more than 1,000,000 children have been killed since the beginning of the State. Yes, a genuine holocaust - and no one cares. According to a recent study, 60% of women who gave birth at Hadassah Hospital in Har HaZoftim admitted than they underwent an abortion "out of convenience" in the past. When the former Minister of Health Dr. Sadan took it upon himself to fight against this phenomenon, playing a short film for the members of the Israeli Knesset depicting the abomination of abortions in Israel, and comparing this legal mass murder to the Holocaust in Europe, the Knesset members jumped out of their skin. What enraged them so? The murder of the fetuses? Of course not! What shocked these bleeding hearts was the fact that Mr. Sadan made the comparison of abortion to the Holocaust. He was forced to step down and relinquish his duties.
What is particularly fascinating, though, is the entire leftist, liberal approach to the subject. From their point of view, the more o nesupports abortions, the more "enlightened" that person is. You may ask: How does mass murder sit so well with humanitarian enlightened types? It's quite simple! You see, the killing of a fetus is an expression of "freedom over one's body", feminism, and progressive advanced society! And what about the fetuses right to live? That is not relevant to the modern and progressive.
While every decent person would agree that child abuse is abhorrent, suddenly it becomes legitimate and even fashionable to kill a child in his mother's womb. Technically speaking, harming a child one second after he leaves his mother's womb is demented, but killing it a second before leaving his mother's womb is "freedom over her body". This gross perversion of morality is the result of morals that are dictated by man and not God. Not long ago, it was even reported that in certain gynecological clinics that perform abortions, dogs eat the remains of the baby after it has been grated from his mother's womb.
Pay attention, dear readers. When Baruch Goldstein (may G-d avenge his blood), a doctor by profession, killed thirty of the Arab enemy in the Cave of the Patriarchs in order to prevent more non-stop spilling of Jewish blood, the liberal left was enflamed, condemning the act as the worst atrocity committed in the last few hundred years. On the other hand, when there is an agreement among doctors to kill 1,000,000 fetuses - 60,000 murders per year - that, my friends, is "progress". There cannot be a more concrete example to display the unbridgable gap between Judaism and western culture: That which is seen in Judaism as heinous murder is considered by them to be progress, and that which is considered in Judaism as right and just is seen by them as heinous murder. Two completely opposite worlds with completely opposing concepts.
The following are passages that portray the magnitude of this atrocity, claiming more victims per year than all the traffic accidents and wars in Israel put together:
"The Tiniest Human Being"
Story of a Doctor: "Many years ago, after anesthetizing the woman for the sake of halting the pregnancy from outside the womb (second month), I held in my hand the tiniest human being ever seen. The fetus wasi mpeccable - complete and transparent. It was a male full of energy swimming in the sac of water, adjoined by the umbilical cord to the wall of the sac. The miniature human being was completely developed - long and narrow fingers, feet and toes. Its skin was practically transparent. Its arteries and veins stood out until the tips of his fingers. The body was completely alive and was in no way similar to the pictures of fetuses that I had seen in the past. When the sac was opened, his life was terminated instantaneously, and he looked just like one would expect a fetus to looklike at this stage - lifeless." (Dr. Paul N. Rockwell)
"80 Cents Short"
Story of a Chief of Staff: "I was born in Tel Adashim. The date was under dispute, until my father and the head of the village determined: January 11, 1929. I left my mother's womb to breathe the world's air because my parents were....too poor. Totally impovershed. Four children came before me, and my father could not provide for them. That is why my parents decided to spare me from such poverty and put an end to me - in my mother's womb. But we were so poor that that my father couldn't come up with the two liros necessary to perform the abortion. Through great effort my father was able to collect one liro and 20. He urged the doctors to do the abortion and he would pay the 80 grushim at a later date - but the doctors refused. No credit allowed, and a son was born. Now there were five children in the needy family. There were days when my parents would say jokingly: "This kid is worth two liros?" (Story of former Chief of Staff, Rafael Eitan)
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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
time: 21:33
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Agathon:
That is an interesting arguement. If one defines personhood at ensoulment, which is a religious matter, then the state cannot rule one month more valid than any other, because ensoulment has to do with one's religious beliefs.
The problem is that most prolifers do not use ensoulment as a valid argument against abortion.
From Aggie's link:
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Abortion is murder. The hidden premise here is that the unborn life, from its conception, constitutes a legal person. Even among those who profess this, however, few adhere to its literal truth. The equation of abortion with murder logically entails its banning in all circumstances - including to save the mother's life, or to end a pregnancy resulting from rape or incest. Yet according to a 2000 Los Angeles Times poll, 85% of Americans would allow abortions if the mother's physical health is at risk, 54% if her emotional health is at risk - numbers impossible to reconcile with the 57% who claim that abortion is murder.
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Considering the high levels of argumentation in the article, this one is a strawman. Just because all 'prolifers' do not adhere to the same concept does not render the concept of abortion as muder incorrect. It only means that people are inconsistent. This is an ad-hominem fallacy.
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22-01-2004 22:59
. Thanks for pointing that out Speer.
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