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alexman
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Hunt Valley, MD
Jan 1970
time: 00:33
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This is a guide about how corruption works in Conquests. It's slightly different than how it used to work in PTW and vanilla Civ3.
The information that follows was discovered by extensive testing and contributions by numerous members of the Civ3 community, including Aeson, DaviddesJ, Nor Me, and Qitai. We also recently got some inside information (a look at some of the actual corruption code), which helped find the last few missing pieces of the corruption puzzle.
DEFINITIONS
Corruption in Civilization 3 is commerce from city tiles that cannot be used by the empire. Corrupted commerce is indicated graphically in the city screen by stacks of red coins. There are numerous factors that influence corruption, all of which are addressed in this article.
Waste is the loss of production as opposed to commerce, and is governed by almost the same rules as corruption. Everything in this article that applies to corruption, also applies to waste, unless otherwise mentioned.
CORRUPTION BASICS
The total corruption in each city is equal to the sum of two independent components: distance corruption, and rank corruption.
For non-communal government types, distance corruption depends on the distance of each city from its closest palace. Rank corruption in a city depends on how many other cities are closer than that city to the palace.
For communal government types, distance corruption does not actually depend on distance. Each city is considered to be the same distance from the Palace. Rank corruption depends on the total number of cities in the empire.
You can reduce corruption in your cities by building appropriate city improvements and Wonders, changing to a more efficient government, choosing a Commercial civilization, and connecting your cities to the trade network of your empire. In addition, you can reduce waste by bringing your cities into a WLTKD celebration.
You can determine the total number of ‘red’ commerce in a city by multiplying its total corruption by the number of raw commerce produced by citizens working the land, rounded to the closest integer.
DISTANCE CORRUPTION
For all non-communal government types, the distance corruption component is proportional to the distance of a given city from its closest Palace. For communal governments, the distance to the closest Palace is considered to be the same for all cities on a given map. The “closest palace” to a city can be the Palace, the Forbidden Palace, or any other Wonder with the “reduces corruption” ability.
For corruption purposes, distance is always an integer number, and is given by:
code:
d = max(x,y) + min(x,y)/2
where
max(x,y) denotes the maximum between x and y,
min(x,y) denotes the minimum between x and y,
x is the distance in the NW/SE direction,
y is the distance in the NE/SW direction,
and the integer division is rounded down.
In the special case of communal governments, the distance for all cities is taken as:
code:
d = (MaxD) / 4
where MaxD = (MapW+MapH)/4, MapW is the width of the map, and MapH is the height of the map, as given in the editor.
The distance, d, is used to get the adjusted distance, da, as follows:
code:
da = 0.5^Ni * min(Gd * t * d, MaxD)
where
Ni is the number of anti-corruption buildings,
t = 1 if the city is on the trade network
5/4 otherwise
Gd = 3/2 for Rampant corruption (Despotism)
3/4 for Minimal corruption (Democracy)
1 otherwise
For waste calculations only, when the city is in a WLTKD celebration, divide da by 2.
So each anti-corruption building, which is a city improvement with the “reduces corruption” ability in the editor (Courthouse and Police Station), divides distance corruption by 2.
Finally, the exact value of the distance corruption component is given by:
code:
Cd = da /MaxD
RANK CORRUPTION
The rank corruption component depends on the rank (R) and optimal city number (Nopt) of each city.
In a non-communal type of government all cities of an empire are ranked in order of distance to the capital, starting at zero for the capital itself. If several cities have the same distance to the capital, they are ranked in order of founding, and if they also have the same date of founding, they are ranked by their order in the database. In a communal form of government, all cities have the same rank, which is half the total number of cities in the empire, rounded down.
Each city also has its own optimal city number, Nopt, given by:
code:
Nopt = max(OCN * (L/100 * (1 + c + Gr + Gp*Nwe) + 0.25*Ni), 1)
where
OCN is the optimal number of cities for the map size,
as found in the editor
L is the percentage of optimal cities for the current
difficulty level, as given in the editor
Nwe is the number of active Wonders in the empire with
the “reduces corruption” ability
(Forbidden Palace, SPHQ)
c = 0.25 for a commercial civilization,
0 otherwise
Gr = 0.1 for minimal or nuisance corruption
2 for communal corruption
0 otherwise
Gp = 3/8 non-communal corruption
3 for communal corruption
For waste calculations only, when the city is in a WLTKD celebration, add OCN/4 to Nopt.
The rank corruption for a city is then given by:
code:
Cr = R / (2 * Nopt), if R < Nopt
(2 * R – Nopt) / (2 * Nopt) otherwise
MAXIMUM CORRUPTION
The sum of the distance and rank components of corruption can be greater than 100%. The game sets an upper limit for the total corruption in a city to be equal to 90% minus 10% for each city improvement and minus 70% for each Wonder in the city with the “reduces corruption” ability:
code:
Cmax = max(0.9 – (0.1 * Ni + 0.7 * Nwc), 0)
POLICEMAN SPECIALISTS
By assigning one of your citizens to be a policeman, you can cause one corrupted commerce and one wasted shield to become uncorrupted. This reduction in corruption comes before applying the maximum corruption limit described in the previous section, so the city may not show any reduction if was already taking advantage of that limit.
SUMMARY
To summarize the above, distance corruption depends on the distance of the city from the closest palace (or a constant number for communal governments), multiplied by a factor that depends on the government type, and another factor if the city is not connected to your capital by road, harbor, or airport. Each corruption-reducing building in the city halves distance corruption.
Rank corruption depends on the ratio of the city rank to the adjusted optimal city number. The city rank is equal to the number of cities closer to the capital (or half the total number of cities for Communism). The rate of increase of this corruption with rank doubles after rank exceeds the optimal city number. The optimal city number of the map gets modified by the difficulty level, the commercial trait, the current government, and the number of improvements and Wonders with the “reduces corruption” ability.
Courthouses and Police Stations decrease distance corruption and increase the optimal number of cities. They also each decrease the maximum corruption limit.
The Forbidden Palace acts as a second Palace for distance corruption calculations, but not for rank calculations. The Forbidden Palace itself will have low corruption, but if there are many cities closer to the Palace than the Forbidden Palace, the cities around the Forbidden Palace will have high rank corruption. However, even though it doesn’t provide a new set of city ranks, the Forbidden Palace reduces rank corruption throughout the empire by increasing the optimal number of cities.
Last edited by alexman on 18-05-2004 at 18:21
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:33
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This is great alexman.
One question, is this how its going to remain throughout the rest of the patching process?
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:33
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Alexman, in case you missed my earlier question, do you know if this is how corruption will remain throughout the rest of the patching process?
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Arrian
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Kneel before Grog!
Jul 2001
time: 00:33
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Sweet. Will do when I get home (~3 hours, blah, grocery shopping to do).
By the way, kudos to the AI in this particular game. I went looking for a pump start spot (playing as Iroquois) because I wanted a strong game w/a FP to try and work on the placement. Hence the start I got... it took me a few restarts to get it. Once I got a pump-capable start spot, it turned out to be just awesome. When it rains, it pours, and when the sun shines, you get skin cancer. Or something like that. Anyway, my REXmania was interrupted not once but twice by Russian sneak attacks, each of which cost me a border town (they took out one, I abandoned the other and retreated to fight them off closer to my core). They were a major pain in the ass until I unloaded on them with swords, MWs, and ancient cavalry (I got Zeus, but fairly late, because it took forever to connect my ivory). Granted, the first sneak attack was just a couple of warriors, but it was justified, since all I had to counter it was a couple of warriors. They got a little lucky (took out fortified reg warrior on hill with vet warrior) and it cost me a town. The second attack was more serious - about 5 archers and a warrior or two. I fought it off with a couple of spears, several warriors (vets now, as I was preparing for sword upgrade) and an archer or two. I won, but kudos to the AI for hitting me when I was running almost zero military and REXing like a madman. It did hurt me, and annoyed the hell out of me.
-Arrian
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Mountain Sage
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Alexman,
you might also look on my 'Emperor C3C' thread. I put a table with the difference between wasted shields before and after the FP. Is that helpful in any way?
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alexman
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Hunt Valley, MD
Jan 1970
time: 00:33
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Arrian, you have done a great job of placing your Forbidden Palace for the current state of your empire. You have almost no rank corruption problems, so the best location is much like it used to be in PTW, so that the distance corruption is minimized.
I think the key is to keep your FP core under the modified OCN. Your current OCN is 31 without a courthouse and 36 with a courthouse:
Nopt = 20*(0.85 + 0.25 + 0.1 + 3/8 + 0.25*Ni)
The rank of your Forbidden Palace city, Kawauka, is 22.
The rank of Vladivostock, a city in the FP core in the opposite direction of the Palace, is 28.
You might have afforded to place the FP a little farther away, and still be below Nopt with a courthouse in your FP area, and certainly afforded to place it farther away if you count on police stations. With a farther FP, when you would have expanded to conquer your continent, your distance corruption would not be as bad in the western areas.
What you have done is very good choice though. A FP closer to your palace will give some super-productive cities in its core. A FP farther away might increase the overall economy of your empire, but it would not have as strong individual cities.
MS, I'll look at your thread, but I'm not sure if I can add anything, unless you have any specific questions of why you are observing a certain behavior.
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Mr Justice
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alexman, u must be the spawn of sid,
to be so knowledgeble about CIV is amazing
* Mr Justice tips hat to you
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Arrian
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Kneel before Grog!
Jul 2001
time: 00:33
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Thanks, alexman. The number-crunching is a little beyond me. But it seems my choice, based on my basic understanding of the new system + gut instinct, appears to have been a good one. So now I know.
I ended up playing forward a bit after I posted the game, and suffice it to say that I now have a bunch more cities. But, as I understand it, so long as the newly acquired cities are farther from the Palace than the cities in the FP area, the FP area will be ok, right?
See, I went and conquered Germany (Pyramids, HG, wines. Couldn't resist). That gave me... let's see... 10-11 more cities. Russia is destroyed too (1 city). I built a city SW of the FP city, 6 of the gold mountain. Spain attacked me, and lost 1 city for their trouble (in the hills, west of the gold mountain).
So about 14 new cities have entered the empire. The German cities will always be corrupt, I figure, which is fine. They're mostly irrigated already (thanks, AI!) so they will be specialist cities.
-Arrian
p.s. Built those galleys & made contact, though the Dutch beat me to it. No matter, since the Dutch are horribly backward compared to the rest of my continent.
p.p.s Coracle would have had a stroke. I had German city flip on me, taking with it a 3x med inf army, an ancient cav, and at least one healing elite mounted warrior.
Last edited by Arrian on 27-01-2004 at 21:04
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Dominae
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So the distance Corruption for cities under Communism only varies with the number of Corruption improvements (assuming they're connected to the trade network)?
1. No Courthouse or Police Station: Cd = 25%
2. Either Courhouse or Police Station: Cd = 12.5%
3. Both Courthouse and Police Station: Cd = 6.25%
Right?
Dominae
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Dominae
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alexman, let me throw out a statement and you let me know if it's correct: building a Forbidden Palace in a remote location no longer produces a "second core", because typically most of the cities around that location will have high rank, and so their small distance Corruption will be overshadowed by their rank Corruption.
If true, it is no longer a good strategy to rush the FP in a recently-conquered empire, unless that empire is rather close to home.
Dominae
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alexman
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Hunt Valley, MD
Jan 1970
time: 00:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Dominae
1. No Courthouse or Police Station: Cd = 25%
2. Either Courhouse or Police Station: Cd = 12.5%
3. Both Courthouse and Police Station: Cd = 6.25%
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Unless the city is not connected to the trade network, that's absolutely right.
quote:
building a Forbidden Palace in a remote location no longer produces a "second core", because typically most of the cities around that location will have high rank, and so their small distance Corruption will be overshadowed by their rank Corruption.
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While this might be true in most cases, it's not necessarily always true. As you know, the amount of corruption in the FP core depends on the number of cities that are closer to the palace than a given city in the FP core. If you have a small core around your palace (because you're on an island, or because you don't want to attack your immediate neighbors, or whatever reason), then you can rush your FP on the moon and it would provide the same benefit as if you had rushed it at any other location (unless it overlaps with your Palace core).
A good way to check whether your FP core will be functional is to make sure that the ranks of the FP core cities are less than their modified OCN. For a standard map (OCN=20), in Republic, with a FP and a courthouse, the modified OCN is about 34. So, for example, as long as your Palace core is under the OCN (20), you can have 14 productive cities in your FP core.
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Arrian
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Kneel before Grog!
Jul 2001
time: 00:33
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quote:
A good way to check whether your FP core will be functional is to make sure that the ranks of the FP core cities are less than their modified OCN. For a standard map (OCN=20), in Republic, with a FP and a courthouse, the modified OCN is about 34. So, for example, as long as your Palace core is under the OCN (20), you can have 14 productive cities in your FP core. |
Level of play influences this as well, right? My game was played on Monarch level, and my civ was commercial. It was a standard map. Commercial is +25% and Monarch level multiplies the OCN by .9, right?
I tried using the formula you set forth above, and I came up with a modified OCN of 37.5 for my Iroquois empire. Standard Map, Monarch, Commercial Civ, Republic*, courthouses.
Nopt = max(20*(.9+.25+.1+.375+.25), 1).
Am I right. Or at least close to right?
-Arrian
* - republic at the time of the save I posted above. The empire is now a democracy, and not all that far away from getting police stations. Is anyone interested in the industrial era save, to see how the FP area is doing when more built up?
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26-01-2004 07:23
thanks Alexman, It all seems so easy now 
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