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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:33
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Originally posted by DataAeolus
Whatever. No nationality has monopoly on hatred. |
I would understand some Germans hating us for our brutality during WWII against them. However, they hate us for liberating them from the Nazi's, standing up to the USSR to keep them free and helping them get the East back. It was Mr. Reagan who said, "Mr. Gorbochev, Tear down that wall." But it is America they hate, not the USSR. It is Ronald Reagan they dispise, not Gorby.
And for this, I say to German people, "You can go to H."
As to France, where can we begin. Is there a more self-centered nation on earth - an prouder nation with not much to be proud about? Only twice in 1000 years have they produced true heroes that all the world knows: Joan de Arc and Napoleon. Prior to that, the only hero they had, Vercingetorix, established a French tradition by losing his nation to Caesar.
Now they have produced Chirac, mayor of Paris. His bribe taking is renown. He even betrayed one of France's oldest and most loyal allies for a few shekels from the ME.
The French!
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Commie T, don't you live in Amerika? |
Yep and I have said time and time again: If I had the money to undo this mistake and move to another nation, I would.
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Mr. Reagan who said, "Mr. Gorbochev, Tear down that wall." But it is America they hate, not the USSR. It is Ronald Reagan they dispise, not Gorby.
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Yep. Perhaps it is because America had done everything it could to hurt Russia in the past?
I do not credit America with bringing down the Soviet Union. In fact, all America did was bark.
The people brought down the Soviet Union for they were tired of the dictatorship.
But you may continue to delude yourself, if only to keep you sane 
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Is there a more self-centered nation on earth - an prouder nation with not much to be proud about? |
Oh say can you see.....It's AMERICA 
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Only twice in 1000 years have they produced true heroes that all the world knows: Joan de Arc and Napoleon. |
Napoleon 
But do not fear, Neddy. Both France and Germany are becoming like the United States....indeed self centered, vile, nasty.....
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He even betrayed one of France's oldest and most loyal allies for a few shekels from the ME.
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America?
If America can be so easily lost, then was it really a "loyal ally" at all?
Brothers to America
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Tripledoc
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Wasn't Vercingetorix celtic?
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Yet it was the legal dilemma, as much as the lurid details of the case, that consumed the court. |
lOLL LOll1 LOL!!!iolll
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Zylka
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Human might be okay on bread grilled with cheese. Most things are.
Curry powder makes just about anything edible. |
SOOO ALSO funNY! SO SO FUNNY!!!
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:33
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Originally posted by mrmitchell
If a guy asks you to rob his bank, does that make it any less of a criminal act? |
Bad analaogy. The bank's money is not that guy's to give.
If a guy comes up to you and offers you money, and you take it, is that criminal stealing? No, because it's his money to give. Likewise, if he asks you not to take his money, but to take his life, it is his life to give.
IMHO, the guy needs rehabilitation. If someone eats another human, whether he is sane in other respects or not, he needs to be rehabilitated so that he won't eat anyone else. It's a destructive fetish, that he needs to get over. However it is probably not something he can control, and the other guy asked to be eaten, it was his fantasy too. Maybe he was bored with life, maybe he was depressed and wanted to feel that his body was going to do something good after he died, maybe he has intense S&M fantasies. Whatever reason he did it, he asked someone to kill him and they did. I think the cannibal needs to be helped, so that he doesn't feel the need to eat people, but he didn't force the other guy, and since the other guys body was his to give, I don't think it's anyone elses business. What's done between 2 consenting adults in private is their business alone, IMHO. I would rehabilitate him based on his wants, rather than his actions. It cannot be wrong to have a desire for something, because it is not their fault, but when it is destructive to society, rehabilitation to remove it seems appropriate. However his actions were with someone who consented, and so I don't agree that he should be pubnished for it, but rehabilitated for the underlying cause.
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Sir Ralph
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Long live teh Schwampel!
Dec 2001
time: 06:33
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Originally posted by Ned
I would understand some Germans hating us for our brutality during WWII against them. |
You fought a brutal regime with admittedly brutal methods. It doesn't make you look like the noble savior in shiny armor. But it is understood and forgiven as long as the wrong is admitted.
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However, they hate us for liberating them from the Nazi's, standing up to the USSR to keep them free and helping them get the East back. |
Double-bull. First, we don't hate you for this. Second, the USSR has done at least as much as you and paid a much higher bloodtoll, since directly attacked.
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It was Mr. Reagan who said, "Mr. Gorbochev, Tear down that wall." But it is America they hate, not the USSR. It is Ronald Reagan they dispise, not Gorby. |
Reagan was a mad old actor. Do I despise him? Yes, somehow I do, but that's personal, not national, and it has nothing to do with his speech in front of the wall. Do I hate the current US administration? Yes again. Does this mean I hate the USA? No.
And for what would I despise Gorby? Reagan demanded to tear down the wall. Words. Gorby has greatly helped to get it done. Deeds.
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And for this, I say to German people, "You can go to H." |
No I won't apply for a green card. 
Seriously, I wouldn't say anything like this to the American people. Many Americans are my friends. But this is for you personally: Eat **** and die!  
Oh and on-topic: I have penis in curry sauce for lunch. Yummy! 
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Bereta_Eder
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About conscenting, there was this case, years away now, where a young woman, obviously suffering from severe depression, asked a parking lot man to kill her. After lots of discussion he did it. He got lots of years in prison.
The correct approach would have been to (doh) direct her to a psychiatrist.
Some journalists tried to make a romantic nostalgic sweet self destruction fairy tale out of it.
However the balding head of the parking lot guy and his absolute lack of any "romeo" features kind of ruined their romantic plan. Now he's out of jail after winning parole (?) and noone gives him a job to the "sinister lover/mercyful killer".
Last edited by Bereta_Eder on 03-02-2004 at 16:51
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:33
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oh my. I bet Ned is 15 years old and a fat nerd. go play with DarkCloud.
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Tripledoc
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In America can you revoke people's right to vote on reasons of insanity?
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Monk
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I don't think we're in Brønshøj anymore
Jan 1970
time: 06:33
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Ned,
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I would understand some Germans hating us for our brutality during WWII against them. However, they hate us for liberating them from the Nazi's, standing up to the USSR to keep them free and helping them get the East back. It was Mr. Reagan who said, "Mr. Gorbochev, Tear down that wall." But it is America they hate, not the USSR. It is Ronald Reagan they dispise, not Gorby.
And for this, I say to German people, "You can go to H." |
To summarize your point, the Germans in general can go to hell because some of them aren't showing enough gratitude? And hate is not too strong a word for German feelings on the U.S? I'd like to see you back up some of your claims, especially the claim that modern day Germans hate you or your country for getting rid of the Nazis. If you can prove this in some way or another, it would be truly remarkable. But if you can't, and assuming you're actually serious about this, I'd say you're the one showing a hateful approach.
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