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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
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I would probably examine other religions to see if all were disproven. If so, I would probably be a bit depressed for a while, then pick myself up and try to cling onto some hope that there was something beyond this corporeal existence, even without a god. Call me sentimental or naive, but I think that this all has a purpose.
Has the following question been asked:
What would you do if a deity was proven to exist?
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Elok
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Land of Ramen Dragons
Mar 2003
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Okay, I let off a long prolife thread to calm down over. Dropping the previous angle, I would say how exactly God is disproved is essential to the argument. How were we told this? Who argued it to us, with what arguments?
I personally hold God to be an ultimate authority where veracity is concerned. Most "conflicts of church and state" result from hasty assumptions by one side or the other. For example, there's nothing in Christian canon that says the sun revolves around the earth. Also, science is a set of beliefs based on the assumption of a naturalistic cause for all things; a single "supernatural" ingredient creates a whole different universe, so evolution vs. creation is a pointless fight, like comparing hot dogs to Bach concertos. How do you compare the worth of two things so totally different? But I digress.
Crap, I lost my train of thought. I think what I was going to say is, supposing somebody told you it is in fact our civic duty to hunt old people for sport, how would you react? I imagine your first response is something like, "why?" or "who said that?" You probably can't even imagine how such a thing could be (at least, I can't). That's much like how I feel. You're proposing a totally altered worldview based on quantities unknown. My reaction would depend wildly based on circumstances.
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curtsibling
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of the Kill!
May 2002
time: 05:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Elok
Okay, I let off a long prolife thread to calm down over. Dropping the previous angle, I would say how exactly God is disproved is essential to the argument. How were we told this? Who argued it to us, with what arguments? |
Is it really terribly important?
Surely you can jumo ahead and imagine your reaction?
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Originally posted by Elok
I personally hold God to be an ultimate authority where veracity is concerned. Most "conflicts of church and state" result from hasty assumptions by one side or the other. For example, there's nothing in Christian canon that says the sun revolves around the earth. Also, science is a set of beliefs based on the assumption of a naturalistic cause for all things; a single "supernatural" ingredient creates a whole different universe, so evolution vs. creation is a pointless fight, like comparing hot dogs to Bach concertos. How do you compare the worth of two things so totally different? But I digress. |
You digress, but I find it a good point. 
Human failure plays a big part in why I am wary of human religious ideas.
quote:
Originally posted by Elok
Crap, I lost my train of thought. I think what I was going to say is, supposing somebody told you it is in fact our civic duty to hunt old people for sport, how would you react? I imagine your first response is something like, "why?" or "who said that?" You probably can't even imagine how such a thing could be (at least, I can't). That's much like how I feel. You're proposing a totally altered worldview based on quantities unknown. My reaction would depend wildly based on circumstances. |
A good analogy.
Well, I would rationalise why old people have to be hunted, but if that was the way things had became...
Anyhow, I can imagine we have to hunt the OAPs and say:
"To hunt oldies, I would pack an MP40 MG, just for that antique feel."
I feel the same can be done for my question...
Your turn! 
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:33
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Originally posted by curtsibling
@lord of the mark:
I'm curious:
what does a deity have to do with a meal you just ate?
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Indeed - the deity is eternal. Radically other to the natural world. The meal is part of this world, the product of the restlessly changing processes of nature, life, birth, growth, death. How can the eternal impact the temporal?? What does it mean to speak of G-d IN the world???? These are deep, questions.
They cannot be fully addressed in a forum such as this, and i am not certain at this point of my stand on them.
I think at this point, that a mystical/kabbalistic approach is more promising than a traditional theological approach. To advance my knowledge in this area I am currently reading Gershom Scholems "The Messianic Idea in Judaism" I am a little saddened by his critique of Martin Buber, since I thought Bubers attempt to link Hasidic mysticism with modern Existentialism might be part of the answer, but i find Scholems arguement (that Hasidic mysticism contains a Platonic component incompatible with existentialism) compelling.
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