04-02-2004 01:36									#1
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LL just sent the turn apparently.

Priorities for this turn:

1) move settler/workers south, with escort.

2) check for LL galley in the west (our scout would probably the the unit to see it).

3) check cost of embassy with LL (if they haven't made one with us already).

4) check cost of Construction & Polytheism for devaluation to see if LL has either tech.

If the turn is to be played before I get home tonight (~3 hours from now), I'd really appreciate a screenshot of the south prior to moving units... I want to see what those 2 Monkey warriors do before we decide what type of escort we need for our settler/worker team. This may also affect what we do with that horseman 3 of Silkfest (if we are worried about the Monkeys, we should pull it back into SF. if not, he can go hunt barbs).

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 03:52									#2
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LL are after cash-for-Polytheism alright - they sent it unaccepted. In-yer-face trading or what?

Burundy builds granary : +4fpt for growth in 1t and +7spt.

One of Monkeys workers was a settler! It's now on Silkfest-1111.

LL galley is heading south - seen by the scout. the warrior moved east. Galley should meet Monkey in about 8-9 turns. If warrior moves east then south it should meet Monkey in about 9 turns.

	04-02-2004 04:00									#3
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Embassy with LL is 48g.

We have 573g, +52 gpt.

We need 560, so we can do it.

	04-02-2004 04:03									#4
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Average military to LL, weak to Python, strong to Monkey.

This says that LL's power comes from cities, not troops.

Monkey spiked in power last turn

	04-02-2004 04:10									#5
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Polytheism is cost 12 (*24=288b), Construction is cost 20 (*24 = 480b).


Strange, though. Polytheism costs us about 300b, and it should be devalued, as LL have it. Construction is at least somewhere around 540.

	04-02-2004 04:40									#6
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Hrm. What about a republic for polytheism plus gold trade?

The Monkey settler concerns me. First, that it's there. Second, that they renamed it to hide it as a worker.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 04:42									#7
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I'm opening the save too...

	04-02-2004 04:46									#8
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'evening

You can play the turn if you want. You might want to ponder things tonight - it's all happening.

If LL are an Island Nation they might want a chunk of our continent ... sound familiar? We'll go for the embassy and see where they are.

	04-02-2004 04:49									#9
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Suggested moves:

FP moves north.
Southern Scout moves north.
Spearman out in the jungle near corinth moves 6, back onto our road.
Spearman at SF111 fortifies.
Catapult moves 112.

I'm pondering moving the regular warrior at SF1112 south.

Ack, dinner is ready, gotta go for now... bbl.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:01									#10
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Yes to all those moves.

I expect Monkey will build a city on that tile they're on (game, hill), and Jojo is looking for barbs. They've got another settler coming too. Settling the south is clearly not their priority.

	04-02-2004 05:22									#11
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NW1 joins Silesia. WF shuffled (use irrigated grass and 2 hills, give the bonus grass to Coventry).

Englebert Slapiback moves 2.

NW4 roads.

Warrior in Silesia moves to Swindon and fortifies.

PoB, Farley & Crazy Eddie road.

Izz configured for +5fpt, +9spt, set to settler.

All those sound good? I'm still working on it...

-Arrian

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Oh, btw, moving our regular warrior 2 reveals a barb encampment at SF2222.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:24									#13
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Should we try to block LL's warrior from moving north? We can do it.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:26									#14
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Our regular warrior will reach the barb encampment before our horseman could anyway, so I think we move the horsie back into Silkfest.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:27									#15
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Ok, really important question:

Should we abandon the attempt to settle farther south than Silkfest, and if so, should we halt roadbuilding efforts and send the stooges to go clear a silk tile (like the one at Corinth6)?

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:28									#16
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sorry - didn't refresh in 5 mins and there's a load of posts!
.... catching up ....

	04-02-2004 05:33									#17
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Re: polytheism...

I'm getting ~294 beakers. 14 turns at 21 beakers/turn (20% science). That jives with 288, the base cost. Odd.

Ok, I'm going to establish the embassy.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:34									#18
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that's all good

- I think we've got to abandon hopes of the southern city - unless we want to build one in their face just for the heat of it

	04-02-2004 05:38									#20
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14 * 21 = 294, but that doesn't seem devalued enough. It should be < 270 with one civ knowing it.

	04-02-2004 05:41									#21
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I moved the other two workers near Swindon/Silesia to assist irrigating Swindon7. Irrigation complete.

Ok, I will order the stooges to Corinth9.

The settler... I think the next settler out of Izz could beat it to the forest cow site, so I'm thinking about keeping the settler in the south as a "combat settler" for the war.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:41									#22
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LL's warrior - I thought we wanted him to move north and east a bit to delay him before he moves south.

	04-02-2004 05:42									#23
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Well, the galley is going to meet the Monkeys a lot faster than the warrior. The warrior, however, can meet Python by going north. Do we want to delay that contact?

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:42									#24
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Stooges are mining Cor-9?

	04-02-2004 05:44									#25
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Newest worker out of Izz (didn't rename him, sorry) moves 241. He can join the three currently on Swindon7, move to Swindon74, and irrigate that in one turn. They can then split up and develop lots of tiles for the new city planned for that area (potential FP spot).

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:45									#26
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btw - we got Eddie's "Sexie Live" from Amazon today - and looking forward to watching it soon.

	04-02-2004 05:47									#27
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Should the chariots head barracks-wards?

	04-02-2004 05:47									#28
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No, I was going to move the stooges to Cor6, to cut down jungle and then road, so we can trade silks to Python.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:50									#29
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RE: chariots... not yet, I don't think. If we want to block LL, we need one to do it.

The other one is useful as a lookout for now. Soon we will send them back, though.

-Arrian

	04-02-2004 05:52									#30
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Hmm, now I'm pondering moving the settler to the forest cow site (Swindon 447) and sending the next one to the war zone or to Swindon 44444.

What do you think?

-Arrian