17-02-2004 03:33									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Fez I am not defending Franco. For the last time! F**k off. I admitted I did not know about the server crash. It was a simple mistake. Or do you want to display more hostility where it is unwarranted?

I wasn't aware I had suggested you were. Something else for you to misinterpret?

So, you've gone from calling me a moron to telling me to f@ck off. Exactly who is displaying unwarranted hostility?

I like the way you've admitted it was a 'simple' mistake, but still, no apology for the term 'moron'.

And now you have to apologize to Chemical Ollie too- after all, he was only addressing the issue of your ignorance or presumption- which led you down this path of vituperation and invective.

None so blind as those that will not see, eh, Fez?

	17-02-2004 03:38									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue You'll be claiming the rise in NI contributions isn't a rise in income tax next.

Irrelevant.

quote: Of course the licence fee is a tax. If one does exist (and there could be economic justification for it I'm sure), then it surely would be fairer to split the proceeds across stations.

Channel 4 also receives state funding. As far as the others go? I notice you're ignoring the charter criteria...

quote: If it is providing things that are unprofitable, it is an inefficient service.

And if it smells of ****, it's a cow, right? Incidentally, don't choke on your cud.

quote: I don't remember that. I suppose that makes me one of the plebs that would prefer to see programs created that the people want (it is a public service after all Laz?), rather than a few programs for the intellectual snobbery of a few.

I seem to recall the BBC produces a show that has been top-rated or second rated for most of the last 18 years. How much populism do you want?

	17-02-2004 03:47									#93
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"How much populism do you want?"

If populism is your spin-word for producing programs that the public wants, then surely more than 3 lots of 30 minutes a week.

"its cost of production is covered by ITV's advertising revenuess. Why would you want to pay more for it when the cost is already covered?"

Because I don't think it is fair or efficient that the gullible pay for the entertainment of a nation.

	17-02-2004 03:50									#94
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Fez doesn't have to apologize. He's excused by his young age. And his nick means something funny in Swedish.

	17-02-2004 04:01									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue Because I don't think it is fair or efficient that the gullible pay for the entertainment of a nation.

Well that's advertising for you.

	17-02-2004 04:06									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie Fez doesn't have to apologize. He's excused by his young age. And his nick means something funny in Swedish.

Oh my, how apposite- Fez is Swedish flatus.

Thanks, C.O. , I fell off my chair, laughing.....!!!!!!

	17-02-2004 04:11									#97
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Fez? You are hereby renamed "Mr Farty Guff-Guff".

	17-02-2004 04:17									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp Fez? You are hereby renamed "Mr Farty Guff-Guff".

Senor Windy Popper.

El Gas Egg.

Stenchorista, of the Stenchismo Frente Popular.

Pedro Poopy Pants.

A. Nusemission.

Cue South Park, and Fez's dramatic rescue (e)mission to Eye Rak:

'Not Without My @nus!'

Laz, you're a very bad influence. I have to go and read 40 pages of Locke as a penance.

	17-02-2004 04:19									#99
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Smell like love, the gay said

	17-02-2004 04:43									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie Smell like love, the gay said

Let's not head down that wind tunnel.

	17-02-2004 07:45									#101
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Stew, the additional costs on everyday household purchases alone to pay for advertising costs far outweigh anything you will ever pay for a TV license.

	17-02-2004 08:29									#102
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Okay these falsehoods about my nickname going around will cause me to change my nickname.

quote: Originally posted by molly bloom So, you've gone from calling me a moron to telling me to f@ck off. Exactly who is displaying unwarranted hostility? I like the way you've admitted it was a 'simple' mistake, but still, no apology for the term 'moron'.

You are the moron. I am the damn genius here.

quote: And now you have to apologize to Chemical Ollie too- after all, he was only addressing the issue of your ignorance or presumption- which led you down this path of vituperation and invective. None so blind as those that will not see, eh, Fez?

Chemical Ollie is something else... I wouldn't take anything he says with a grain of salt. Who is the ignorant and presumptive one here? Certainly not me.

	17-02-2004 09:31									#103
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This thread is about the BBC. **** off.

	17-02-2004 10:44									#104
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Pedro Poopy Pants.

My new nick for Fez!

	17-02-2004 14:40									#105
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quote: Stew, the additional costs on everyday household purchases alone to pay for advertising costs far outweigh anything you will ever pay for a TV license.

Exactly! My proposal does away with advertising. Pay-per-view, pay for quality.

High quality, high cost programs could be provided if customers and the market will bear them.

Obtaining revenue by proxy (advertising) is a very poor alternative.

	17-02-2004 22:28									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue I strongly dislike the argument that has appeared a couple of times on this thread..."I liked Program X that the BBC created, therefore the licence fee is an excellent idea!" Other channels have equally good programs, but that isn't an argument that the licence fee should be abolished.

ITV have been producing TV programmes for nearly 50 years and they've all been crap. QED.

	18-02-2004 03:18									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov My new nick for Fez!

Happy to be of service.

Didn't take long for the Stenchorista to get back to his old ways, did it?

	18-02-2004 04:09									#108
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"ITV have been producing TV programmes for nearly 50 years and they've all been crap. QED."

Being somewhat South of the Bristol to King's Lynn Gap, I'll safely assume you haven't heard of Coronation Street.

	18-02-2004 04:11									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue "ITV have been producing TV programmes for nearly 50 years and they've all been crap. QED." Being somewhat South of the Bristol to King's Lynn Gap, I'll safely assume you haven't heard of Coronation Street.

Your point being?

	18-02-2004 04:18									#110
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That ITV produce quality programs. Oh ****, I just realised, Laz is a snob, and hence unworthy of such drivel as CS - we need more unwatchable and tedious history programs for his crass history "series".

	18-02-2004 04:27									#111
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According to upmystreet.com, ITV viewing is a matter of class (or lack of it), which may be why some find it objectionable ..

As for the BBC, well, I find it dumbed down at times, BBC World (much loved in India) can be a little repetative (they love re-showing hard talk all the time), but Radio 4 is brilliant, especially its science coverage.

I can't imagine the BBC will break up, I think a few people have suggested some of the structural changes, but it certainly will not be broken up.

For me, the BBC needs to aim at a viewer with a bit more intellegence than it does, especially on reporting on Science and Technology, which I find dismal at best on its TV channels.

As for being bias .. well, some of its reporters certainly are, but surely we are all intellegent enough to spot it, and discount it .. arn't we ??

As for the similarities between Sky and Fox, its interesting, because Star is India's murdoch ran enterprise, and its so over the top nationalistic, like fox, but I think sky isn't so jingoistic as either Fox or Star .

	18-02-2004 04:43									#112
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BBC is a joke. Sky is on the way up.

	18-02-2004 05:06									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo The first day I'd be interested in anybody on apolyton would be the day pigs fly.

then why did you send nude pictures of yourself to asher?

checkmate

	18-02-2004 05:11									#114
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Probably because Glonkie asked for them.

Does anyone have the link to the thread where Fez took the article from the Onion seriously?

	18-02-2004 05:13									#115
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word is that it was unsolicited

	18-02-2004 05:15									#116
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 then why did you send nude pictures of yourself to asher? checkmate

He asked me to. I did have the ICQ transcripts on my old 40GB hard-drive (which is now kaput). And I don't do stupid things like that anymore.

Agathon: Don't be a moron.

Anyways, I got my name changed back. That fiasco is over.

	18-02-2004 05:15									#117
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 word is that it was unsolicited

Glonk's word?

reminds me of that song... Desperado....

	18-02-2004 05:18									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Anyways, I got my name changed back. That fiasco is over.

You could have been more creative. "The Pink Jackboot" sounds good.

	18-02-2004 05:22									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon You could have been more creative. "The Pink Jackboot" sounds good.

Nope. I don't listen to people like you.

	18-02-2004 05:25									#120
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More's the pity...