20-02-2004 05:57									#151
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon People who fart in Green have been engaged in depraved acts with vegetables.

Yes, I'm a secret chlorophylliac.

Hey, Aggie, want to join me in the Holy Conclave of Moronism?

To be one of the brethren or sustren it's necessary to

a) have been described as a 'moron' or a 'fool' by Pedro Poopy Pants

b) enjoy food with a high potential for creating giancarloes.

WHHHEEEEOOOOTTTTTT!!!!!!!


Oooohhh- that must be the smoky paprika I just fezzed.

	20-02-2004 06:01									#152
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I'm soundly beating you on the first count, and probably, to my eternal shame, on the second.

	20-02-2004 06:23									#153
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I'm soundly beating you on the first count, and probably, to my eternal shame, on the second.

You can be Pantocrator of the Northern See of the Holy Conclave of Moronism, and given that just about everyone seems to assume I'm female, I may as well opt for Abbess Molly of the Wholly Ludicrous Convent of the Stenchy Fart.

There will be consumption of a ritual meal-

aperitif: cabbage water

amuse gueules: broad bean puffs

first course: dahl soup, with pea stuffed roti

main course: Jerusalem artichoke fritters, stuffed cabbage rolls, soya bean dip and kabli channa spiced with jalapeno chillis.

dessert: souffle

Drinks: aerated water, real ale, Belgian monastic ales and draught Guinness.

Liqueurs will be served next to the septic tank, located conveniently close to the sewage outfall.

The evening will end with a celebratory 21 fez salute.

	20-02-2004 18:50									#154
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quote: That'll be Sky whose only original programming consists of that sit com with the landlord and Club Reps or similar ? And for this you pay way more than the licence fee ? The same Sky whose commitment to regional broadcasting is overwhelming ? The new ITV channel showed its commitment to local TV by trying to cut its output or move it to a central location. When STV bought Grampian one of the first things they looked at was whether Grampian news could be made in Glasgow. Commercial realities means that a lot of what the BBC does is only going to be done by a public broadcaster not chasing adverts. Agree about Hardtalk though but then it is cheap to make.

Sport.

	20-02-2004 22:13									#155
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Look, I'm terribly sorry, but your deficiency in common courtesy is not compensated by the fact that you look like a slightly darker version of Shelley Duvall.

	25-02-2004 18:41									#156
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Yeah, where is Redfern anyway?

Redfern's here


Ok, my two penneth.

Well for a start to the BBC being public has been around longer than any person on these forums that I know of. Obviously starting on the radio, they owned a monopoly and it was feared that this gave a private organisation too much power (oh lordy how they'd turn in their graves to see the Fox empire). The BBc was bought off and made public, regulated to be as politically neutral as possible. Each party must be allowed equal time on the airwaves.

Every party that has ever been in power has complained of BBC bias against them, thats the Conservatives, not just Labour. Should the Greens or Liberal Democrats ever come to power similar accusations would doubtless be made.

Sky news is very much as it looks - tacky and melodramatic. Personally I tend to watch BBC News or ITN. Fox News makes baby Jesus cry.

As for our main TV channels -

BBC1 - Occassionally gets some quality programmes, but tends to lag behind the other channels in terms of social prograssion or, more recently, genuinly original programming, though there are notable exeptions to the contrary (such as Tipping the Velvet and The Office).
BBC2 is fairy similar save for endlessly repeating the same 5 or so episodes of The Simpsons. Annoyingly (and unlike the other channels) frequently cancels good programmes for utterly retarded 'sports' such as snooker.

ITV are generally middle of the road, tending to stick with safer topics and always producing run-of-the-mill romantic dramas. And the have Coronation Street which is good

Channel 4 have to be my favourite channel. By far the most liberal and daring (though sometimes comes accross as tacky), they have the best youth-oriented programming. If only they'd drop the appalling reality TV shows.

Channel 5 really are appalling. Never seeming to have produced a single programme worth noting, they are prone to endlessly showing dull films from the mid-ninties such as 'Mrs Doubtfire' and borderline cheap pornography from the 80s at night. The Spicegirls were their launch icon. Nuff said.

Sky One's only saving grace is the new American programmes which they acquire. New episodes of The Simpsons and 24 are the only reason anyone would want to watch this channel, they produce even less quality programming themselves than channel 5. Unless you like 'Kirsty's Temptation Island Simpleton Makeover Challenge'.


Anyhoo I've whittered on enough. Comes from taking a politics and the media module last semester

	25-02-2004 19:10									#157
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Why aren't BBC3 and BBC4 on terrestrial television. I had to find the delights of them through my BSkyB satellite dish. And they had adverts breaking up the programming.

There are also other TV channels that the BBC has a hand in that are only shown on non-terrestrial television.


Are they autonomous entities? Do they get any of the licence monies if they are? Are they net income earners - if so are they commercial enterprises that proove the BBC can operate commercially?

So many questions. Anyone have answers?

	25-02-2004 19:15									#158
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I get BBC3 and 4 through my FreeView box - they are only available on digital - not through reqular cable or non-digital sattelite.

I do like BBC3, if only there were less repeats.

I don't remember seeing ads on them...

	25-02-2004 19:19									#159
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch Why aren't BBC3 and BBC4 on terrestrial television. I had to find the delights of them through my BSkyB satellite dish. And they had adverts breaking up the programming. There are also other TV channels that the BBC has a hand in that are only shown on non-terrestrial television. Are they autonomous entities? Do they get any of the licence monies if they are? Are they net income earners - if so are they commercial enterprises that proove the BBC can operate commercially? So many questions. Anyone have answers?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/

and also then click on the link about license fee. If you are getting ads through your satellite dish it must be the evil Murdochites trying to subvert honest BBC viewers!

	25-02-2004 20:22									#160
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NPR does occasionally have conservatives and libertarians on to defend their views. You don't get that to often on the other news networks (more than the viewpoint of 1 side of an issue).

quote: I never trusted them with a grain of salt.

If Fez says it's bad, it must be good. Go BBC!

	25-02-2004 20:49									#161
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Stew, the additional costs on everyday household purchases alone to pay for advertising costs far outweigh anything you will ever pay for a TV license.

I never understood this reasoning. Surely advertising recoups its costs by increasing the amount of goods sold; if they had to increase their price to make up for advertising costs then surely they simply wouldn't advertise in the first place!

	25-02-2004 21:16									#162
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV If you are getting ads through your satellite dish it must be the evil Murdochites trying to subvert honest BBC viewers!

Maybe I'm just thinking of channles like UK Gold that show old BBC programmes with ad-breaks in them.