12-03-2004 19:17									#451
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If I use the slip-stream, doesn't I end off track?

	12-03-2004 19:19									#452
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sended, although I don't know why I just don't join Alva.

	12-03-2004 19:26									#453
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Sent

	12-03-2004 19:40									#454
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quote: Originally posted by ADG If I use the slip-stream, doesn't I end off track?

Slipsteam left and pick your speed depending on whether you want to hit Skanky or avoid him.

	12-03-2004 19:50									#455
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Can't be bothered to PM my orders, and Doc has already sent...

It HAS to be :

BRAKE and LEFT

Oh well...

-Jam

	12-03-2004 19:53									#456
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Orders sent.

	14-03-2004 02:20									#457
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Turn 21 complete, now accepting orders for turn 22.
Good luck gentlemen.

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	14-03-2004 02:55									#458
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Sent

	14-03-2004 03:56									#459
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If Jamski can navigate the turn cleanly, he could still win...

SHould be close.

	14-03-2004 04:08									#460
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As far as I can see it's a forced win from this position.

	14-03-2004 04:58									#461
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'Forced win' ?

	14-03-2004 05:00									#462
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Why didn't you accelerate Doc?

	14-03-2004 05:02									#463
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Sent.

	14-03-2004 05:04									#464
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Dang, I mixed the two of up, I thought Jamski was in second position.

I was just supporting the underdog.

Go Doc Go !!!

	14-03-2004 05:25									#465
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Alva, I meant forced win for me. Jamski is about to go off the track and be reduced to speed 0.

Rah: Because I calculated a forced win this way. Accelerating last turn was not as clear. Jamski would have much better chances that way. Accelerating wouldn't have made me hit the narrow 2 square part any quicker and I would have had lower speed than I will doing it this way. I think, anyway.

	14-03-2004 05:59									#466
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Sent.

	14-03-2004 06:53									#467
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Sented.

	14-03-2004 06:55									#468
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11 turns until a Spikie victory, by my count.

	14-03-2004 08:00									#469
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If jamski breaks left, I don't think it's over yet.

	14-03-2004 08:59									#470
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It is. A brake left and he goes off by one square. He'll be moving at 3, and there's only 2 spaces for him to go.

	14-03-2004 09:26									#471
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Depends on where Rah places him after he crashes. Behind where he went off, Spikie will win by 1 round. To the left of where he went off, Spikie and Jam will probably have an accident somewhere but have the same chance to win.

EDIT: Actually, if Jam can move the turn after he crashes, then if he is placed to the left he should win. Behind and he still has the same chance to win as Spikie. If he has to wait a turn, then my first analysis is correct.

	14-03-2004 13:24									#472
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If he only goes off the track one square, he doesn't lose a turn. That's why he has to break left. He's got a 50/50 shot of being placed left since there's only two spots he can be placed.

	14-03-2004 17:50									#473
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Well he should be placed where he exits, which means the last square he occupied before exiting since he will go off only one square. No judgement is required (or a 50/50 roll) surely?

	14-03-2004 18:25									#474
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Well, why make the orders secret? BRAKE LEFT was always the only option again.

-Jam

	15-03-2004 16:32									#475
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I'll send orders today.........I'd like an answer to the last query before I do so though.

	15-03-2004 17:33									#476
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I think rah is away or something.

-Jam

	15-03-2004 18:15									#477
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Nah, he's about to post.

	15-03-2004 18:18									#478
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Yes he is.

On a previous "left the track" situation, I randomized which touching space I placed the person. I intend to do the same this time. If you read the rules, it does say that it's my judgement. Checking to see if all orders have been received now and will update the track.

	15-03-2004 18:20									#479
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As soon as I get Doc's orders.

	15-03-2004 18:33									#480
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Well it says you will use your judgment on where they exited, and in this case with it being one square off the track I would suggest there is no doubt that where he exits is the last square occupied before exiting. That seems the fairest way to do it to me, rather than moving someone to a square they never occupied.

Still, not my decision. I'm obviously biased. I am interested what others (whose decision it also is not ) think though. Surely one should not get a line advantage from going off the track?

As for orders, coming up.