16-06-2004 21:03									#151
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Ill send today before someone else changes it

Is this still the email to send it too?

GCteam@gamecatcher.net

Or should I just PM it at CDG?

	16-06-2004 21:15									#152
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This will be absolutely the first time I'll correct English (as I'm poor at writing it), but shouldn't that be 'Foreign Affairs' instead of 'Foriegn' ?

I had to take the challenge of changing the message, right?

DeepO

	16-06-2004 21:18									#153
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Do both, and if Trip still has Lucky's e-mail address, then send it to that, too.

E_T

	16-06-2004 23:37									#154
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Let's send it and play the turn already before we cause GWT to become suspicious....

	16-06-2004 23:44									#155
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I agree, con, that does flow better.

edit: and yeah, DeepO's right about the spelling of "foreign."

-Arrian

	16-06-2004 23:52									#156
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Its sent and spell checked in word before I sent it

	16-06-2004 23:53									#157
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Excellent, Smithers.

-Arrian

	16-06-2004 23:58									#158
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Sent to the team email adress and PM'ed to the bung hole himself at CDG

	17-06-2004 00:57									#159
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Bunghole! Bungholio! Pow, pow! Titicaca in Nicaragua! I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO! Are you threatening me?[/beavis]

	17-06-2004 01:08									#160
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree Let's send it and play the turn already before we cause GWT to become suspicious....

I would have earlier today, but we don't have final domestic orders.

	17-06-2004 02:10									#161
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Bunghole! Bungholio! Pow, pow! Titicaca in Nicaragua! I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO! Are you threatening me?[/beavis]

* Master Zen wonders what Arrian has been smoking recently...

	17-06-2004 02:17									#162
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factoring that most likely Arrian is at work currently and....

	17-06-2004 07:44									#163
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Nicely worded.

	17-06-2004 18:21									#164
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen * Master Zen wonders what Arrian has been smoking recently...

Well, consider the following:

quote: 16-06-2004 15:57

Which means I posted that just shy of 4 pm. I had recently finished my 2nd draft of The Letter from Hell, and was really ready to get the heck outta here. But I had an hour & a half to go. Enter Beavis.

-Arrian

	17-06-2004 18:31									#165
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Enter Beavis

Uhhhh - huh!

You dill hole. I'm never gonna score with you screwing it up.

	17-06-2004 18:34									#166
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Im not going to bother answering his reply (see topped FA thread)

He is an a$$hole, and its not worth our time.

Question asked, question answered.

End of story.

	17-06-2004 18:37									#167
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Oh, reply from Lucky up in the FA thread.

It's almost like he's trying to be civil... except he's not. Is he capable of it?

Anyway, looks like this is cleared up, although I agree with Lucky ( ) that it should be at least mentioned at the UN to avoid any further confusion for teams that might not know about the way PBEM handles peace treaties. Or maybe we could just try and get everyone to set "always renegotiate deals."

-Arrian

p.s. You know, in the PTWDGII, my team attacked a friendly team with whom we had a close relationship, including a tech trading partnership. Based on the tone and content of the diplo communications, they had every right to expect us to peacefully coexist and cooperate far into the future. For reasons that have been detailed elsewhere, that didn't happen and we launched a 2-on-1 war of aggression against them.

Yet PMs back and forth with them have been at least civil, at most downright friendly. Because they know that in the game of Civ, that stuff happens. It's part of the game. THAT's maturity, folks. That's the way you play a pbem. Kudos to team Monkey of the PTWDGII - offering an example of how a team SHOULD act.

-Arrian

	17-06-2004 18:53									#168
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian p.s. You know, in the PTWDGII, my team attacked a friendly team with whom we had a close relationship, including a tech trading partnership. Based on the tone and content of the diplo communications, they had every right to expect us to peacefully coexist and cooperate far into the future. For reasons that have been detailed elsewhere, that didn't happen and we launched a 2-on-1 war of aggression against them. Yet PMs back and forth with them have been at least civil, at most downright friendly. Because they know that in the game of Civ, that stuff happens. It's part of the game. THAT's maturity, folks. That's the way you play a pbem. Kudos to team Monkey of the PTWDGII - offering an example of how a team SHOULD act. -Arrian

Thanks Arrian.

The same goes for you English guys in dresses.

And you are exactly right, thats the way it should be played. And BOTH sides have handled it extremely well

And the public forum threads have been fun as well. And thank god they were all taken the correct way.

I just think Lucky is an immature arrogant pr1ck. And it comes out in his corrospondence. Its either that or the language translation.

Somehow, I dont think its a translation issue.

	17-06-2004 18:59									#169
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Is Lucky not a native English speaker? That certainly can have a strong effect on the *tone* of someone's posts.

I've seen posts from Sir Ralph and DeepO, both of whom speak excellent English, but aren't native speakers, where the tone is slightly off from the intended meaning, and it can seem abrasive.

Still, I think it's pretty clear that even with an allowance for such things, the guy is a jerk.

-Arrian

	17-06-2004 20:35									#170
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Is Lucky not a native English speaker? That certainly can have a strong effect on the *tone* of someone's posts.

Well, Lucky is German. As to whether he is a "native" speaker, I honestly don't know but it seems to me at least that given his grammar, he very well knows the tone of the letters he writes. Then again, depends on your definition of "native".

Btw, is it just me or did I honestly not find that last correspondance really bad?

	17-06-2004 20:51									#171
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Ah, he's German. For some reason I didn't know that - probably because his English is so good I wouldn't have known unless someone told me. Even though his English is excellent, I still think small nuances of tone could be part of the problem. So is that irritating smilie at the end of everything he writes - even when he's being nasty.

His last note is not "really bad" especially compared to other things he's written, but there are definitely still little jabs in there ("thanks for finally replying" for instance. Small jab, but a jab nonetheless. He never quits with little **** like that). Of course we're all probably oversensitive at this point because of the first note about this issue, which WAS really bad.

-Arrian

	17-06-2004 21:05									#172
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So now you also know also why GCA and GWT hit it off so well...

And yes, that similiey is incredibly irritating

	17-06-2004 22:06									#173
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quote: Bunghole! Bungholio! Pow, pow! Titicaca in Nicaragua! I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO! Are you threatening me?[/beavis]

Is this a draft for our next message?

	17-06-2004 22:11									#174
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MZ

His last corrospondence was not that bad. I agree.

Its just that "Superior Attitude" that drives me nuts. Along with the subtle jabs.

The guy is just a jerk, plain and simple.

	17-06-2004 22:19									#175
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Is this a draft for our next message?

	17-06-2004 22:27									#176
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Lucky is German? Gah! We really are trying to face down the German Bloc!

	18-06-2004 00:40									#177
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Meh, it's ok. Many of us are from the Allied countries. We did ok against the Germans, if memory serves

-Arrian

	18-06-2004 03:12									#178
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Im not going to bother answering his reply (see topped FA thread) He is an a$$hole, and its not worth our time. Question asked, question answered. End of story.

My reaction as well. The matter is settled - thank god we don't have to intereact with him again any time soon.

	18-06-2004 04:29									#179
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian I've seen posts from Sir Ralph and DeepO, both of whom speak excellent English, but aren't native speakers, where the tone is slightly off from the intended meaning, and it can seem abrasive.

Thanks, but not really. I know that I might be able to write decent English, but the finesses of the language escape me.

However, posts from Lucky are not about finesses...

quote: We know you are traitors, but at least respect the ISDG rules and declare war instead if secretly activating it.

Everyone knows when he writes something like that, that it is meant as an insult.

DeepO

	18-06-2004 04:53									#180
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Meh, it's ok. Many of us are from the Allied countries. We did ok against the Germans, if memory serves -Arrian

Down with the Axis!