24-02-2004 21:14									#1
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The Mayor of San Francisco has achieved his objective. Bush now supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush backed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage Tuesday, saying he wants to stop activist judges from changing the definition of the "most enduring human institution."

Marriage cannot be severed from its cultural and moral roots, Bush said, urging Congress to approve such an amendment.

"After more than two centuries of American jurisprudence and millenia of human experience, a few judges and local authorities are presuming to change the most fundamental institution of civilization," the president said. "Their action has created confusion on an issue that requires clarity."

Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said in advance of Bush's announcement that the president wanted to end "growing confusion" that has arisen from court decisions in Massachusetts, and San Francisco's permitting more than 3,000 same sex unions.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040224/D80TN9P80.html

	24-02-2004 21:17									#2
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Bush is a friggan idiot who is gonna join the ranks of the unemployed come January.

	24-02-2004 21:17									#3
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Hell, I would to. It's never going to get passed and it makes for a nice bone to throw to your base.

	24-02-2004 21:17									#4
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If I had any reservations about voting Bush out of office come November, this certainly would have gotten rid of them.

* Potassium awaits ben kenobi to come in this thread and parrot his "LOL GAYS CAN MARRY! THEY JUST HAVE TO MARRY THE OTHER SEX" argument AGAIN

edit: argh, wrong account

-ixnay

	24-02-2004 21:21									#5
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I wonder where Kerry will come out on this?

	24-02-2004 21:29									#6
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what does anyone here expect from Bush. i can just imagine how bush and the wife talked about this. those two are so in the dark when it comes to things like this. i bet gay issues like this is almost too much for Bush to handle.

	24-02-2004 21:30									#7
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Kerry and Edwards will both dance in the middle of the road because the repukes have made this an issue.


I think this illustrates how much of a ****ing moron bush is and how much disrespect he has for civil rights, equality, the constitution, and America in general.

yeah let's put weddings in the ****ing constitution while were at it, let's put something in there for birthdays and barmitzvas too

and conservatives, I thought you dopes didn't like the federal government telling you what to do... I guess you turn a blind eye to authoritarian crap like this

I can't believe this is an issue that is EVEN BEING DEBATED. We're "debating" whether or not we should actively discriminate against gay people.

****ing gay hating bigots

	24-02-2004 21:34									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Potassium If I had any reservations about voting Bush out of office come November, this certainly would have gotten rid of them. * Potassium awaits ben kenobi to come in this thread and parrot his "LOL GAYS CAN MARRY! THEY JUST HAVE TO MARRY THE OTHER SEX" argument AGAIN edit: argh, wrong account -ixnay

DL!

	24-02-2004 21:48									#9
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nice catch DD, I didn't even see that

	24-02-2004 21:52									#10
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Hell, I would to. It's never going to get passed and it makes for a nice bone to throw to your base.

Which shrinks rapidly again thanks to his own silliness. Meanwhile, his opponents now have another bat to bash him.

Mr Bush now has nothing to recruit moderate voters, every time he opens his mouth he inserts his foot in there. It does look very likely that he will be out

	24-02-2004 21:54									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Which shrinks rapidly again thanks to his own silliness.

His base loves him, UR. People like you or Sava wouldn't vote for him anyway.

	24-02-2004 21:58									#13
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc His base loves him, UR. People like you or Sava wouldn't vote for him anyway.

The point is he won't get anything else other than his base, which consists of Christian fundamentalists.

	24-02-2004 22:01									#14
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I very much doubt that. I'm expecting another close election barring something remarkable happening (WMD being found in Iraq, OBL being led through NY City in chains, etc.).

PS What are you going to do about the DL in our midst?

	24-02-2004 22:05									#15
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Does this Decision from Bush surprise me? Definitely not.

After all Bush seems to have close ties to christian Fundamentalism (didn´t he convert to get rid of his Alcoholism?)

SO it would´ve been more of a surprise if he had supported gay marriages.

	24-02-2004 22:11									#16
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc His base loves him, UR. People like you or Sava wouldn't vote for him anyway.

because his base if full of absolute MORONS!!!

	24-02-2004 22:12									#17
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Pot meet Kettle.

	24-02-2004 22:13									#18
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Bush's fundie base has ben gumbling quite a bit about him. He needed to throw them this bone.

	24-02-2004 22:13									#19
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Pot meet Kettle.

don't be sad DD, you can still be saved...

	24-02-2004 22:13									#20
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc DL!

If thats true its a complex one. There are pics of potassium on the pic thread.

It looks to me like she notched a few points in HER belt.

	24-02-2004 22:33									#21
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It should be noted that if someone says, "I hate f*cking Bush", they're not saying that they themselves are gay, but actually that they hate the President.

	24-02-2004 22:35									#22
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IIRC, potassium is ixnay' snugglebunny. He probably just grabbed the pc and started browsing before noticing that she was the last one to use the pc.

	24-02-2004 22:35									#23
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How typical of a Texan Republican

There was an article today on www.washingtonpost.com and let me quote a part of it...

quote: The president said he was acting in accord with the "overwhelming consensus" of Americans.

Overwhelming consensus, my a$$. Nobody I knows support this moronic amendment.

	24-02-2004 22:36									#24
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Fifty-eight precent of American's oppose an amendment banning gay marriage.

	24-02-2004 22:37									#25
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara IIRC, potassium is ixnay' snugglebunny. He probably just grabbed the pc and started browsing before noticing that she was the last one to use the pc.

That's how I viewed it... still.. it's pretty funny

	24-02-2004 22:42									#26
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Fifty-eight precent of American's oppose an amendment banning gay marriage.

and probably 30% are gay, and their decision is biased / invalid under the new amendment being proposed, making homosexuality sexcrime.

	24-02-2004 22:44									#27
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So much for any semblance of Bush believing in federalism and so-called states' rights. I guess a state cannot choose to have activist judges or gay marriage. After all, those "activist" judges were state judges passing on state law. Since when have conservatives (well, those with any intellectual honesty) thought it was the job of federal officials to deal with putative "activist" state judges.

Bush might want to consider his legacy at this point. He's now going into the history books as yet another official blocking the door to the schoolhouse.

	24-02-2004 22:47									#28
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Fifty-eight precent of American's oppose an amendment banning gay marriage.

I don't really care about polls in this matter... I don't care if 90% of people think slavery is a good idea. If a policy is unconstitutional and morally wrong, I don't give a **** if the public wants it or not.

	24-02-2004 22:48									#29
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Adding something to the Constitution makes it constitutional.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava I don't really care about polls in this matter... I don't care if 90% of people think slavery is a good idea. If a policy is unconstitutional and morally wrong, I don't give a **** if the public wants it or not.

oh oh oh, good point.

let's start a poll to reinstitute slavery! if we get 51% i'm going to push it through.