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reismark
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Paragon of Virtue
Jan 1970
time: 00:34
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Galloway will come down. He has to realize that NO ONE is going to pay him that kind of money even as a free agent. I imagine they'll eventually settle on something in the area of $2.5-$3 mil, or at the most, something equal to what Key is getting from Big D (since, after all, they are being traded straight up).
And Imran: I think the reason why most people are claiming Denver made out better with this deal is durability - Champ's shown himself to be tough, while Portis hasn't made it through an entire season without injury yet. Plus, Denver does get that 2nd round draft pick, and if they strike gold with it, the sum does turn out to be better for them. I'm playing wait-and-see to see what Denver does with the pick and how Portis holds up in DC next year before I judge the trade either way. At this point, both teams are filling big needs, so I say they're both winners 
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reismark
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Paragon of Virtue
Jan 1970
time: 00:34
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You'd think so. Then again, this is Joey Galloway.
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Indeed. But there'll be positive movements on both sides. Bruce Allen knows that this (a speed burner) is what we've been missing all these years from the offense, and he'll move to get the deal done. It's up to Galloway, as far as I'm concerned. I sincerely hope he comes down, because the last thing we need is two big needs (Bruce, for the love of god, TAKE AN RB IN THE FIRST ROUND) going into the draft. Plus, Galloway-McCardell-Jurevicius-Lee would be DEADLY, especially with the right QB...
...and speaking of that, I still haven't decided whether dumping Brad for Jeff Garcia is a good idea. I know Brad struggled at the end of last season, but most of that can be attributed to Alstott's injury and the whole Keyshawn fracas (even though Charles Lee performed super-well in his place, that whole mess tore the team apart emotionally...)
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ACK!!! PTHBBPPPTTT!!!!
Feb 2002
time: 23:34
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According to the Denver post:
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Broncos contact Garner
Ex-Raider may replace Portis
By Adam Schefter
Denver Post Sports Writer
Instead of running through a hole, Charlie Garner is running to the hole Clinton Portis created.
Garner, a former Oakland Raiders running back who is a threat as a receiver and a runner, plans to visit Denver next week and is welcoming the opportunity to play for his primary rival the past three seasons.
"Charlie is so pumped," Garner's agent, Brian Levy, said Wednesday after the Broncos contacted him on the first day NFL teams were allowed to contact and sign free agents.
"He loves coach (Mike) Shana- han, admires his offense. He loves how the Broncos take care of their running backs," Levy said. "That would be an amazing marriage. With Denver's system, it would be scary what type of numbers Charlie would put up."
To procure Garner's services, the Broncos will have to outbid the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Detroit Lions, teams that have coaches with ties to the free-agent running back. Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden worked with Garner in Oakland, and Detroit coach Steve Mariucci worked with Garner in San Francisco.
Before finalizing any deals, Levy said he wants Garner, 32, to visit Denver next week.
"How could you not accommodate a team like Denver?" Levy said. "I'd have to be stupid not to try to figure out a way to make it work."
There is a medical question mark. Garner is scheduled to undergo knee surgery Friday for a meniscus tear that he played with last season. Levy said the surgery would sideline Garner two to three weeks, but would not jeopardize his client's chances of being ready for training camp.
Garner's enthusiasm is evident of a larger issue. Now that the Broncos have traded Portis to the Redskins, running backs are looking at Denver as an ideal destination.
"It's fair to say that running backs do desire Denver," said Denver-based agent Lamont Smith, who represents, among others, Tennessee's Eddie George and Pittsburgh's Jerome Bettis. "You have to look at the Broncos' history of success in the running game. It seems to go on despite who you plug into the position.
"Certainly Denver's a team that will commit to the run. That's a big thing in today's era. A lot of the teams out there seem to have moved away from the run and have tried to come forth with these high-tech passing games. But Denver's been a team that's remained committed to the running game. That's a big feather in their cap and a significant lure for any free-agent running back out there."
Garner is a versatile back who twice has rushed for more than 1,000 yards in a season - 1,229 in 1999 and 1,142 in 2000 - both times for the 49ers. His receiving ability makes him difficult to defend.
During the Raiders' run to the Super Bowl in 2002, Garner caught 91 passes for 941 yards. During each of the past five seasons, he has not caught fewer than the 48 receptions he had last year.
Portis rushed for 1,591 yards and caught 38 passes for 314 yards last season. During his rookie season in 2002, Portis rushed for 1,508 yards and caught 33 passes for 364 yards.
While pursuing Garner, Denver could have a difficult time retaining its own free agents.
Broncos defensive end Bertrand Berry arrived in Dallas on Wednesday evening and will spend today meeting with the Cowboys' coaches.
Berry would like to remain in Denver but, as he admitted: "It's the Cowboys, for goodness' sake. Who can't get excited about putting the star on the side of your helmet?"
Broncos outside linebacker Ian Gold also drew interest Wednesday. Gold was arranging a visit next week to the New York Jets. Other teams with outside linebacker needs that could pursue Gold are the Raiders, Jacksonville Jaguars, New York Giants and Seattle Seahawks.
Gold's agent, Carl Poston, said the chance his client would re-sign with the Broncos is remote.
The chance appears greater Garner will wind up in Denver, a prospect not likely to please the Raiders.
"You want to put your client in the best possible situation," Levy said. "You want to make sure he is financially satisfied, but you also don't want him calling you in Week 8 and saying, 'I can't keep losing.'
"And with Charlie in Denver, there's no reason the Broncos shouldn't be one of the top two or three favorites in the AFC this season." |
I don't think Garner has the legs anymore.
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yavoon
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
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a first year qb is not "insurance" because in all likelihood their performance will be poor. |
Insurance for the future! Any career backup won't do that great, so if Rattay fails, keep him in and plan to dump him when he gets to Free Agency and you have a QB waiting in the wings.
Btw, the 'Skins just signed Shawn Springs from Seattle (who doesn't care because they have some freaking awesome corners!) |
what? thats way too weak. ur basically saying draft unproven qb's until u hit one? ever heard of free agency? To think u have to continually draft "insurance" qbs is inane and utterly simplistic strategy.
sorry, just no dude. just no.
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04-03-2004 08:39
Schottenheimer was in the booth when the Chargers drafted Leaf. Beathard was the GM at the time, IIRC. And they couldn't have gotten Manning, Manning was picked #1 by the Colts.
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