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It's not that big of a deal. He's average. |
definitely above avg.
I'd put him at solid.
SOLID MY BROTHER!
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Paragon of Virtue
Jan 1970
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I knew it! 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1754974
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Garner, Bucs agree to six-year deal
The Bucs have reached an agreement in principle with former Raiders running back Charlie Garner, opting to sign Garner over the Eagles' Duce Staley.
Garner is expected to sign a six-year, $20 million contract with the Bucs that includes $4 million in up-front money. Garner was also high on the list of the Broncos, who recently traded Clinton Portis to the Redskins.
The Bucs moved quickly to reunite Garner with his former Raiders coach, Jon Gruden. They had been negotiating with Staley, who visited last week. Staley spent Monday in Pittsburgh and was in serious negotiations with the Steelers.
This will be the third team in which Garner and Gruden have worked together. Garner, 32, was considered instant offense for Gruden in Philadelphia when Gruden was offensive coordinator there. He signed with the Raiders in 2001 and spent three seasons in Oakland as a starter. |
Finally, finally, we've got a playmaking running back. I'd love for Chucky to shove down Al's throat just how terribly misused Garner was the past two seasons.
Time for Sapp to make good on his mouth and re-sign.
Last edited by reismark on 10-03-2004 at 19:38
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Originally posted by pchang
Garner is a much better pass catcher/route runner than Pittman. This fits well into Gruden's short pass offense schemes, especially on 3rd downs. |
pittman can catch just fine. garner's contract is rather large. not sure if its got monopoly money in it or not, but they appear to be paying garner like he's a huge step up.
and he's just not. he's 32 and a part time back that can catch well. but its not like pittman had stone hands.
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yavoon
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u must be on crack to take boston over TO. to is bad. but boston was so bad that the team that just signed him to a big fat franchise receiver contract w/ big fat bonus. traded him for a 6th round pick...in 2005. |
Boston just needs the right coach and situation. Boston showed he can shine in a few games last year. I think most of the problem was with Drew Brees... who was horrid last year. |
miami is demanding boston be 15 lbs lighter than his current weight.
if boston did have someone who could handle him he's obviously an amazing receiver w/ size and speed. that being sed. TO is an amazing receiver w/ a great work ethic and a highly competitive attitude RIGHT NOW. and doesn't need near as much "handling."
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yavoon
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
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miami is demanding boston be 15 lbs lighter than his current weight. |
Good thing. He still caught 70 balls and had 7 TD with his great bulk.
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if boston did have someone who could handle him he's obviously an amazing receiver w/ size and speed. |
He's in luck. The WR coach in Miami is the same one in Arizona in 2001. You know when he caught 98 balls?
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TO is an amazing receiver w/ a great work ethic and a highly competitive attitude RIGHT NOW. and doesn't need near as much "handling." |
I wouldn't say that. This is a guy who yelled at his coach on the sideline. Didn't get along at all with his QB. And just threw this temper tantrum because he didn't get what he wanted. I think he requires just as much 'handling'. He's a timebomb ready to go off. |
god damn shotgun. ok TO did all these things and still had good years. Boston needed handling, got benched, fined, and tried to have his contract bonuses removed. which btw the trade also removes like 5 millino of guarenteed money from the SD contract.
its not that TO doesn't whine. its that he plays anyway. more akin to keyshawn. it appears boston whines and breaks down soto speak. when u go from leading the league in receiving yards to not even cracking 1000.
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05-03-2004 21:33
You had the worst rushing game in the league last year!!
And I'm sure that was his favorite place. There's nothing I like better than watching a bloated ego get his just desserts. 
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