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Jac de Molay
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Sep 2001
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So I'm just finishing up a particularly brutal workout at the downtown Y, and all I've been hearing for the past hour is this:
"C'mon Nigger, lift that sh*t!!"
"Two more Nigger, you aint gettin' up off that til two more"
"Man, nigger, I'll tell you what-that girl has a body."
And on and on.
What gives? As Detroits Resident Token Honky, this disturbs me to no end. Don't these people understand the history of the word? And how it's come to exemplify everything that's subhuman or servile in people for centuries?
I've asked every black person I know, and still haven't received a satisfactory explanation, except they say that "all black people don't use it". Yeah, but enough do. 
It strikes me as odd that this same minority fights so many battles for respect and equality, yet bandies about one of the most repugnant words in the english language..... 
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:34
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I'm gonna agree with Japher.
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Pax
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When used between other black's it can show solidarity, friendship, brotherhood. My friends and family often use it. I've been called it ny mom, uncles, aunts, dad, and grandparents.
When used by whites is has traditionally meant inferior, non-human, stupid, and ignorant.
I see more young whites using the word now. It dilutes the first two meanings into non-existence. This may be a good or bad thing. In the futre the distinction bettween black and white may dilute as well.
I hope this successfully answers your question as being one resident nigger of apolyton. But please don't call me that because I don't use the word.
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Pax
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quote:
Originally posted by Japher
I had no idea Shogun was down wit da homies...
Note: Many black ppl hate it when other blacks use the N-word. IMO, which is one of a white guy, there are two types of black ppl;
1 - Those who use that word and are a drain on the society, and thus ARE that word.
2 - Those who despise the word, are educate and productive people, and ARE thus not that word...
Same goes for honky... The word contains a conotation that relates to the type of person they are, and is not universal... I.e. not all nerds are geeks, but all geek are nerds... both post on 'Poly. |
I agree with Theben. The same educated black person will use that word among his black friends. We blacks grow up on that words. We here our role models use it. It really has a different meaning when blacks use it.
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Pax
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Originally posted by Verto
Black people are racist. |
I don't think blacks are any more racist than white people. Blacks all over the world do have a cause to dislike Europeans, So do Asians, Arabs, and Latin Americans. Don't feel like people are racist because they resent their forefathers being kidnapped and enslaved.
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Pax
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Originally posted by Verto
Does that make it acceptable? |
I don't feel comfortable with the word because of it's double meaning. In black american society it means one thing in american society as a whole it means another. I think in the future it will have only one meaning because of the effect rap music is having on american youth.
It's like being an arab in america. It's a custom to use a specific hand for a handshake and the other for sanitary purposes. here in america we don't have the same customs but that arab can maintain his culture in american society.
In the end I think it's acceptable for african americans to use the word in the non negative it's being used. I do not think it's okay for whites or any other group to use it as a racial slur. I feel discomfort when I hear white youth using it in their way but I do understand that they are not using it as a racial slur.
Also, english is a living language words do change in meaning with time.
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Caligastia
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It's mostly whites that are offended by the use of that word nowadays.
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Pax
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Originally posted by Japher
That is why it is wrong... I am getting liquored up right now, but the FACT that you grew up using the word, and the FACT that it is DIFFERENT when you use it, make a lot of difference in why black communities are generally less affluent than others, and generally feel ostaziced from the rest of American society which they lable as THE MAN... It isn't so much the WORD, but that CONNOTATION. |
Blacks are disenfranchised because they are the other in this society. In any society there will be a group that is labeled as different. That's the way it works. The fact that you ask me to not use a word that was good enough for my father in the way he used it is to say sell what little of your subculture you have left. It's like asking a chinese american to stop speaking chinese.
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