21-03-2004 14:45									#121
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No, not a Sims fan... this is anything BUT the Sims . The majority of the game will be ship battles... ie, strategy.

	21-03-2004 16:39									#122
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Hehe I love how everyone sensible distances themselves from the Sims in any game discussions.

	21-03-2004 17:07									#123
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I wonder why..

	21-03-2004 17:20									#124
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* Skanky Burns forms a horde to go after Spikie.

	21-03-2004 17:52									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui No, not a Sims fan... this is anything BUT the Sims .

Wake up and smell the coffee! That's exactly what their making Sims Pirates! or "Sims Meier's Pirates! 2."

The emphasis of the game is to swordfight, woo the daughter (Sims dating), and dance on the dance floor (Sims Nightlife).

Pirates! 2 is a game for Sims fans.

	21-03-2004 18:18									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns * Skanky Burns forms a horde to go after Spikie.

Yeah a *horde* of Sims fans. Not around here.

Anyway today is Sunday so I can just hide whilst they teach their Sim how to mow the lawn or something

	21-03-2004 18:48									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Doc Yeah a *horde* of Sims fans. Not around here. Anyway today is Sunday so I can just hide whilst they teach their Sim how to mow the lawn or something

They could round up all the Furries, too although Sims fans and Furries probably have a lot of overlap.

Although I never would have thought to inclue Imran in this group. He usually seems so intelligent and well grounded.

They need to make the Dance an option that can be turned off. That is just going in the wrong direction for Sid.

	22-03-2004 01:35									#128
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quote: That's exactly what their making Sims Pirates! or "Sims Meier's Pirates! 2."

GF shows he has no idea what the Hell he is talking about, meaning that PR2 is probably much worse than we all thought .

quote: They need to make the Dance an option that can be turned off.

Just don't try to marry the Governor's daughter... DUH!

Of course PR2 has swordfighting... it's a Sims game too? I wonder if PR2 really even cares about ship battles? Probably not, it just like numbers in a spreedsheet form of game.

	22-03-2004 02:44									#129
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Actually ship battles are the bulk of PR2, you spend more time on that than anything. And unlike Pirates! you can have up to 20 Convoys and 10 ships per convoy for 10 on 10 fleet battles.

Pirates! 2 had to cut the fleet battles, ship burnings and what not for the dancing shoes and leisured suits I guess...........

	22-03-2004 03:40									#130
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quote: Actually ship battles are the bulk of PR2

And the bulk of Pirates! So, once again, you've demonstrated you have no idea what the Hell you are talking about .

quote: And unlike Pirates! you can have up to 20 Convoys and 10 ships per convoy for 10 on 10 fleet battles.

If you, as the player, could have conveys in a game called PIRATES, I'd be definetly disappointed.

quote: Pirates! 2 had to cut the fleet battles, ship burnings and what not for the dancing shoes and leisured suits I guess...........

No, see, unlike your precious PR2, Pirates! can do two things at once and add fun little side-quests .

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Of course, Pirates! 1 is considered a gaming classic, while PR1 was a forgettable distraction .

	22-03-2004 04:43									#131
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We'll see, but I cannot phathom how adding the Sims aspect to Pirates! can be a good thing.

	22-03-2004 04:45									#132
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IF the pirates kill the sims....hmm...maybe....

	22-03-2004 04:54									#133
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Alva, the pirates ARE the Sims in Pirates! 2.

	22-03-2004 09:44									#134
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Sorry, but Pirates! 2 just sounds like an unfunny version of Monkey Island 3 or 4.

	22-03-2004 09:46									#135
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What the heck is Monkey Island? Is that anywhere near Cat Island?

	22-03-2004 20:17									#136
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Adventure game. If chronology is important then really Monkey Island was a rip off of Pirates! without the fun sailing, piracy, town-raiding, treasure hunting or trading bits

	22-03-2004 23:22									#137
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So basically you just sat on an island and watched Monkeys?

Sound like the Civ3 PTW DG II.

	23-03-2004 00:52									#138
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How dare you not know what Monkey Island is?! You have invalidated your gaming opinion on everything in one fell swoop.

	23-03-2004 03:38									#139
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I had a valid gaming opinion?

Seriously, isn't Monkey Island that Disney zoo in Orlando?

	23-03-2004 04:18									#140
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Heathen.

	23-03-2004 04:30									#141
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How can a gamer not know the Monkey Island series (even if they didn't like it or something)

	23-03-2004 04:36									#142
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GF, your assignment is to acquire a copy of Monkey Island and experience for yourself the ... Monkey Island experience.
(Mental note, revise the above sentence before posting)

You fight like a dairy farmer.

	23-03-2004 04:45									#143
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[obligatory] How appropriate, you fight like a cow. [/obligatory]

	23-03-2004 06:43									#144
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Oh great.......

- Sid is doing it.
- Atari publishing.
- An old classic being remaked "simplified" for the masses and "prettier".
- 3D engine proven to be crap.

Hmm...... remind anyone of anything?

He screwed us with Civ3, he'll screw us with Pirates.

	23-03-2004 07:12									#145
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quote: Hmm...... remind anyone of anything?

No... Sid didn't 'do' Civ3. Civ3 was anything if 'simplified'. Civ3 didn't have a 3D engine.

So, fails on every account. I think Sid actually involved in programming in Pirates! will make this a can't miss.

	23-03-2004 10:21									#146
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Imran:

Sorry, but if you put your name on the box, you have to expect it to be yours, and to expect the flak in your name when it flops. Oh, and straight from the Civ3 website FAQ, "overseeing the project" pretty much says it's his:

quote: What is Sid Meier's role in the making of Civilization III? Sid is the Director of Creative Development at Firaxis Games. He is overseeing the project, making game play and design decisions.

I didn't say Civ3 had a 3D engine, I said the 3D engine in pirates 2 is crap.

And Civ3 WAS simplified. Heaps! Just one look at the UI tells us that, not to mention that model simplifications.

	23-03-2004 16:07									#147
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Imran you shouldn't dismiss Dale's points IMO. Atari don't have a great record, and any of the good Civ3 players who have a long history with Civ will tell you it's simplified as compared to Civ2, despite the additions made.

As to Sid's 'involvement' I doubt that has any bearing any more either for good or bad.

	23-03-2004 16:07									#148
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui How can a gamer not know the Monkey Island series (even if they didn't like it or something)

It was probably something I looked at and thought "oh, this is one of those education child games like Oregon Trail" and promptly put down and completely wiped from my memory.

	23-03-2004 16:14									#149
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Well it's not too late to correct your oversight.

	23-03-2004 16:16									#150
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What oversight? Everyone here says it was crap.