27-03-2004 19:57									#91
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Navigation is CRITICAL

It should be our #1. (actually #2, Astronomy is a precursor)
Get Nav, give/trade whatever to CGN and trade Luxuries.

Viola! the problem of getting past size 6 is solved.

	28-03-2004 00:53									#92
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quote: Originally posted by roadcage Navigation is CRITICAL It should be our #1. (actually #2, Astronomy is a precursor) Get Nav, give/trade whatever to CGN and trade Luxuries. Viola! the problem of getting past size 6 is solved.

Possibly. It depends on how long CGN will be around for. I'm still waiting for an update from CGN on how things are looking over there. FAM?

	28-03-2004 00:54									#93
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree Possibly. It depends on how long CGN will be around for. I'm still waiting for an update from CGN on how things are looking over there. FAM?

Ill post something in there forum today.

	28-03-2004 01:20									#94
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Gheesh, now people are grasping at other peoples straws....

Unless CGN gets really "Lucky" (which I highly doubt), then they will have to find a refuge city from us way before the possibility of Nav is completed. So, in all reality, count CGN Luxes out of the equation ENTIRELY!!

And Yes, Nav is critical, BUT, when we get it too early, whom are we going to trade Luxes with?? GCA/GWT??

Or, are we going to use it to help CGN?? With the Army that we currently have right now??

And with us speeding up to Nav, we make it much sooner for GWT/GCA for them to have them, because of the tech costs. We wouldn;t be ready (in that timeframe) to repuse a serious Invasion from GWT/GCA.

Come on people, be a little bit real here.

E_T

	28-03-2004 01:22									#95
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I concur with E_T on this one.

quote: Originally posted by E_T Gheesh, now people are grasping at other peoples straws.... Unless CGN gets really "Lucky" (which I highly doubt), then they will have to find a refuge city from us way before the possibility of Nav is completed. So, in all reality, count CGN Luxes out of the equation ENTIRELY!! And Yes, Nav is critical, BUT, when we get it too early, whom are we going to trade Luxes with?? GCA/GWT?? Or, are we going to use it to help CGN?? With the Army that we currently have right now?? And with us speeding up to Nav, we make it much sooner for GWT/GCA for them to have them, because of the tech costs. We wouldn;t be ready (in that timeframe) to repuse a serious Invasion from GWT/GCA. Come on people, be a little bit real here. E_T

	08-04-2004 22:11									#96
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Trip and I worked late last night, on the HG build in Apolyton Prime, getting it finished as soon as possible. Here is a abreaviated timeline for that city:

Turn 170, 540 AD (next turn at this time) - add workers to get to size 10 - 8 working pop, 2 entertainers.
Turn 171, 550 AD - Palace move Turn.
Turn 174, 580 AD - Marketplace built - 9 working pop, 1 entertainer. Start on HG (17 turns schedualed)
Turn 191, 750 AD - HG built - Add worker to AP to bring it up to 11 working pop. City produces 24 SPT (after waste) at this point. Start on Leo's (25 turns schedualed).
Turn 216, 880 AD - Leo's built (or some other 600 shield Wonder, if Leo's is taken by GWT/GCA.

At this time, we are approx 7-8 turns away from our GA (if normal CURRENT schedual is followed, might be slightly sooner). Depending on other cities and possibliy building JSB in them, they should be done by this time, if not, a quick (3 turn) Temple is built in AP, allowing size 12 (adding a worker). Also, either a Lib or a Court is built in AP (more than likely the Lib).

Turn 223, 915 AD - Current schedualed start of GA, with building Magellans in HoD. Start on building Smiths (16 turns schedualed).
Turn 239, ??? AD - Smiths built, start building Copernacus (sp)
Turn 242, ??? AD - GA ends

E_T

	15-04-2004 09:11									#98
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With our ultimate goal of this game now being the invasion of GWT, I wish to change the tech plan.

Astronomy -> Chemistry -> Physics -> Magnetism

Followed by

Metallurgy -> Military Tradition

Additional techs can be plugged into the final equation as necessary for proper time for wonders completing or having built an adequate number of Horsemen for Cavalry upgrades.

At 50% science the first segment should take 32 turns to complete (starting with next turn), and the second segment taking 16 for a total of 48 turns. The sooner we get Magnetism the sooner we can start producing those expensive Frigates from our low SPT cities.

	15-04-2004 09:49									#99
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and where is Navigation, so that we can even start out GA??

E_T

	15-04-2004 10:13									#100
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Depending on if we get Leo's or not (either increasing or decreasing the amount of gold we need) we can do it either before Military Tradition (at the standard pace if we don't get Leo's) or after MT (doing it in ~4 turns, since we'll have extra gold).

	15-04-2004 10:23									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Trip With our ultimate goal of this game now being the invasion of GWT, I wish to change the tech plan.

Did I miss a vote or something ???

	15-04-2004 10:33									#102
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Nope, all tenative. Changing the previous tenative plan to a new tenative plan.

	15-04-2004 17:46									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel Did I miss a vote or something ???

Seconded. I'm not at all convinced that an invasion of GWT is the best path to victory.

-Arrian