31-03-2004 23:11									#1
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Bayer deals blow to GM crops

YES!!!

This could spell a deathblow to GM in this country - and good riddance!

	31-03-2004 23:13									#2
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Yay! Protectionism and hysteria rule!

	31-03-2004 23:14									#3
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i still not understand why everbody is so against GM food...OK i know that some are not that good for nature and stuff....but the general idea of GM food can be actually the think that saves the nature on this planet

	31-03-2004 23:14									#4
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a welcome move

	31-03-2004 23:25									#5
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BOOOO!

quote: Yay! Protectionism and hysteria rule!

Indeed

	31-03-2004 23:36									#6
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Having eaten GM food for years (used to live in the States) I can safely say that it has no harmful side-effects. Except for being directly responsible for my self-delusional narcissim. But I'm getting help for that.

Now bow before me.








...you insects.

	01-04-2004 00:08									#7
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So it's true, GM food makes you gay

	01-04-2004 00:44									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Yay! Protectionism and hysteria rule!

Actually I think it is called public opinion...

Around 80% of the UK population opposes GM - have you heard of democracy where you're from?

	01-04-2004 00:46									#9
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quote: I think it is called public opinion

He did say hysteria, did he not?

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I think we should put tarrifs on steel again.

	01-04-2004 00:49									#11
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PEOPLE MADE IT SO IT MUST BE BAD RAAAAAAAAAR

	01-04-2004 00:52									#12
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how dare ppl attempt to improve crop yields. lets repeal the cotton gin too! EVIL

	01-04-2004 00:53									#13
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It probably wouldn't be so "popular" here if it were labled.

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quote: Originally posted by DeathByTheSword i still not understand why everbody is so against GM food...OK i know that some are not that good for nature and stuff....but the general idea of GM food can be actually the think that saves the nature on this planet

Actually I think that GM is a good thing, but there are still too many outstanding questions involved - when you consider the huge profits concerned, the potential for corner cutting etc are massive...

Big business just cannot be trusted to keep things safe when chasing profit - this has been proved time and time again.

Personally I'd rather countries like the US to remain as a giant open air lab for the rest of us in case there are any unpleasant side effects.

It is all about choice - I would like to keep that choice thank you. No GM!

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YAY! DOWN WITH FRANKENFOODDD!!!!!1111





GM food makes your penis longer.

	01-04-2004 00:55									#16
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It probably wouldn't be so "popular" here if it were labled.

yah cuz americans hate cheaply made things. just look at how much of a failure wal-mart is.

the only way it'd fail is if some massive hysteria got out about mad carrot disease or something.

	01-04-2004 00:56									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: I think it is called public opinion He did say hysteria, did he not?

Has it been proved to be completely 100% safe?

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quote: Yay! Protectionism and hysteria rule!

The were some basis for being against GM foods years back, when we didn't know if there were any negative consequences in consuming them. Now that the Americans have already tested the stuff for the rest of the globe, there is no reason to keep non-GM agricultural products as 'worse'. Quite frankly, it seems that this ridicolous anti-GM attitude I've seen is simply a new way of next-generation new-age hippies to express their superiority by buying and supporting food which is harder to produce.

quote: It is all about choice - I would like to keep that choice thank you. No GM!

...and busting out competitive and more efficient products from the markets by goverment action is pro-choice exactly in what way?

quote: Has it been proved to be completely 100% safe?

Has water been proved completely, 100% safe?

	01-04-2004 00:57									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel YAY! DOWN WITH FRANKENFOODDD!!!!!1111 GM food makes your penis longer.

Which is probably why so many people on this forum are so in favour of it!

	01-04-2004 00:57									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS It is all about choice - I would like to keep that choice thank you. No GM!

u would like to keep the choice by banning GM foods. is this some kind of commie definition of choice?

	01-04-2004 00:58									#21
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quote: Originally posted by yavoon yah cuz americans hate cheaply made things. just look at how much of a failure wal-mart is.

Did I say it would be a failure? When the government forbids milk producers from labeling their milk as BgH free because that implies there's something wrong with BgH you have to wonder. If it's not a problem, label it and let the American people decide. If you have to hide something from us, maybe it's not so great. I don't really like being experiemented on without my permission.

Anyway, haven't you wondered why there is so much growth in organic foods?

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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS Has it been proved to be completely 100% safe?

yes of course thats the model for safety in modern society. if its not 100% foolproof safe we don't touch it w/ a 10 foot pole!

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Did I say it would be a failure? When the government forbids milk producers from labeling their milk as BgH free because that implies there's something wrong with BgH you have to wonder. If it's not a problem, label it and let the American people decide. If you have to hide something from us, maybe it's not so great. I don't really like being experiemented on without my permission. Anyway, haven't you wondered why there is so much growth in organic foods?

oh I agree with labeling stuffs=D. I was unaware we were discussing labeling.

dont vault sideways with the subject!

	01-04-2004 01:00									#24
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I think we should put tarrifs on steel again.

Go on then and we'll see the Bush govt pvssies sh*t their pants again like they did last time when the EU prepared to target industries that would directly affect Bush's voter base - cowards!

Bring it on!

	01-04-2004 01:06									#25
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS cowards!

Pot! Kettle is slightly miffed at you calling him black.

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quote: Originally posted by yavoon dont vault sideways with the subject!

I vaulted sideways in my very first post, too which you responded. Sorry if you can't keep up with the dance.

	01-04-2004 01:08									#27
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I vaulted sideways in my very first post, too which you responded. Sorry if you can't keep up with the dance.

ahh ok. well labeling will have little effect=]

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quote: Quite frankly, it seems that this ridicolous anti-GM attitude I've seen is simply a new way of next-generation new-age hippies to express their superiority by buying and supporting food which is harder to produce.

	01-04-2004 01:12									#29
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I think the only thing hysterical on this thread are the comments from some of the pro GM side...

I said before - I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GM!

Just not the way it is being foisted upon us without any apparent choice or input from the public.

And yes, the labeling issue is very pertinent - the reason why I am so against the way GM is being promoted is that it is shrouded in secrecy, what do these companies have to hide!!?

I mean it's all very well being brainlessly gullible and getting spoonfed what the govt tells you without questioning it, but then certain govts I know were adamant about the huge stockpiles of WMD they knew they were going to find in Iraq...

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I had to represent consumer groups in a university seminar about GMO's. I really really wanted to just rant about frankenfoods but I tried to be rational...