05-04-2004 00:28									#1
	South Dakota is introducing a bill that will ban abortion Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

South Dakota legislators are taking a stand on the issue of abortion, a stand that outlaws most abortions within the state. Last month they introduced a bill that passed the House 54 to 15 and the Senate 18 to 15. Governor Mike Rounds had pledged to sign the bill into law after some minor changes (mostly just technical wording) were to be made.

After those changes were suggested, the bill was sent back to the House where it was passed 52 to 16. When it arrived at the Senate, the bill was rejected, effectively stopping it in its tracks.

The Bill

There are various points to the bill, including that the Legislature finds:

... the State of South Dakota has a compelling and paramount interest in the preservation and protection of all human life and finds that the guarantee of due process of law under the South Dakota Bill of Rights applies equally to born and unborn human beings
... that the life of a human being begins when the ovum is fertilized by male sperm
... abortion procedures impose significant risks to the health and life of the pregnant mother
...a pregnant mother, together with the unborn human child, each possess a natural and inalienable right to life under the South Dakota Bill of Rights
The bill includes no exception for rape or incest victims, but does allow an exception for the life of the mother and for a pregnancy that poses a “serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function” to the mother. Doctors who perform abortions that do not meet these exceptions will be charged with a felony.
This bill is being called the most restrictive anti-abortion measure in the nation.

	05-04-2004 00:37									#4
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Case Closed!

	05-04-2004 00:51									#6
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quote: Originally posted by boann ... that the life of a human being begins when the ovum is fertilized by male sperm

quote: ... abortion procedures impose significant risks to the health and life of the pregnant mother

	05-04-2004 00:55									#7
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quote: Originally posted by boann The bill includes no exception for rape or incest victims

	05-04-2004 00:57									#8
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This bill is gonna get smacked so hard by the courts that it'll think it is Tina Turner.

	05-04-2004 00:58									#9
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so are you guys happy it didn't pass or happy that something like this was proposed?

	05-04-2004 01:01									#10
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Is this the law that is supposed to test Roe v. Wade?

	05-04-2004 01:03									#11
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States keep passing these laws and they keep getting struck down... when will they frigging learn? Morons...

	05-04-2004 01:04									#12
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Booo

	05-04-2004 01:05									#13
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What percentage of the newborn in South Dakota is the result of incest, btw?

	05-04-2004 01:06									#14
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You know, the lack of the exception for incest would be fine in WV

	05-04-2004 01:06									#15
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Now everything is getting better!

	05-04-2004 01:18									#16
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From what I understand, there was also legislation authorizing the state's attorney office to spend $1 million defending the would-be law through its inevitable appeals journey throught the federal court system.

Although it's been defeated this year, odds are it'll show up again next year, though the legislative makeup may change enough in the interim that it won't get the critical support it had this year. State term limits are still in effect in South Dakota.

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	05-04-2004 01:19									#17
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South Dakota now lost its coolness. North Dakota is much cooler.

	05-04-2004 01:29									#18
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Literally.

	05-04-2004 01:31									#19
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Well this is what happens when the Court butts in where it doesn't belong with boneheaded decisions, it only serves to radicalize the debate which allos like stupid crap like this.

	05-04-2004 01:36									#20
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[frothing-at-mouth-mode]Yah! Those *damnable* activist judges! BEHEAD THEM ALL! How *dare* they stand up for a woman's right to choose. In fact, how dare they try to change society at all! We need more literalists on the bench! 1789 or bust![/frothing-at-mouth-mode]

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	05-04-2004 02:57									#21
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I don't care about abortion, being a guy and already born, but I don't like the idea of judges creating laws out of their asses. Folks act as though first trimester abortions were mentioned in the Constitution or something. This is an issue that should be left for the state's and their governments to decide.

And I am not going anywhere near South Dakota.

	05-04-2004 03:04									#22
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Choose life
(Put them up for adoption if you don't want them...or better yet: Use a friggin' condom! )

Ban abortion

>>>No exception for rape

>>>No exception for incest

	05-04-2004 03:20									#23
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South Dakota

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freedom hating conservative morons

	05-04-2004 04:15									#26
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... that the life of a human being begins when the ovum is fertilized by male sperm

Aren't sperm sexless? Since this bill went out of its way to specify some sort of a magical sexed sperm, then obviously it does not concern itself with mundane abortions but rather the magical and special kind that go on in the La La Land that the legislators are obviously living in.

	05-04-2004 04:34									#27
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Do you guys think that this issue will ever be solved, or will it always be a huge debate, that will never end?

	05-04-2004 05:14									#28
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Well the courts have definetly radicalized the issue. Who knows what will occur?

	05-04-2004 05:19									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Who knows what will occur?

Conservative answer: God.

Liberal answer: the Borg (Star Trek's probably the closest think they have to a religion).

	05-04-2004 06:23									#30
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I've been learning a lot about this issue because of a Womens Studies course and I gotta say - the abortion issue would be a hell of a lot different if Roe v Wade never happened.

In fact, it's not so much an issue of whether abortion's should be legal - the issue is that the courts took a stance that far surpassed most of the laws in the country. This meant that instead of popular opinon gradually moving toward a consensus (even if each state was different) we have a polarized issue that probably won't be decided for a very long time.