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WISCONSIN
Aug 1999
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Originally posted by GePap
Wow, Poly is really getting to you.
The current situation brings to the fore the fact that the occupation has yet to deal with any of the underlying problems: The Diplomat calls for "staying the course", well, the course has done zip to make a dent on many of the underlying porblems, so how the hell is staying the course a good thing?
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I really get tired of people saying we have done nothing there yet. The engineers are literally rebuilding Iraq from scratch, that wasn't preceived(just how bad it was).
Was it Oredin? that was the Apolytoner that was sent to Iraq, he said there is no sewage system, the power stations, water plants, everything has degraded to such a low ability to work everything has to be replaced. Not to mention how outdated and damaged the oil rigs are. Considering the drastic changes that have to be accomplished I think our guys are doing an excellent job. Most of you want overnight success and accomplishments, that is not possible or feasible, lets be a little realistic.
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:35
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quote:
Originally posted by GePap
Wow, Poly is really getting to you.
The current situation brings to the fore the fact that the occupation has yet to deal with any of the underlying problems: The Diplomat calls for "staying the course", well, the course has done zip to make a dent on many of the underlying porblems, so how the hell is staying the course a good thing?
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original post
"But if we back down, we send a signal to all would-be aggressors that the US is not willing to fight and die for what it believes in."
if by changing course you mean dealing differently with local politics, or involving the UN more, or more whatever, youd have a point. But youd be offtopic, since the original post clearly meant "not staying the course" to mean simply withdrawing. Unless you think a US withdrawl would solve the problems better, something which you have not actually argued for, you have not actually disagreed with the original poster.
In your view, as near as i can tell, the principle underlying problem is the existence of differing ethnic groups in IRaq with a 500 year history of rivalry. NOTHING the coalition could conceivably do could alter this fact, thus the problem is never dented, no matter what course the coalition follows, no matter what happens on the ground in Iraq.
You thought the invasion in Iraq was a bad idea, cause of the ethnic makeup in Iraq. And if civil war doesnt blow now , it will next year. And if not then, in another 5 years. Basically your arguement is not falsifiable within this decade, and perhaps not within the next decade.
As Chou En Lai is reported to have said when asked if the French revolution was a good thing, "Its too early to tell" Which is wise, in a way, but isnt really an answer to people trying to understand events, in say, 1798.
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According to the newswires.
The US plan is to reduce the number of forces from 125.000 to 100.000 after the the 30th of June. But yesteday rumours indicated that the commander for US Central Command, John Abizaid, has requested his staff to explore the possibilities for increasing the number of troops in Iraq.
In a speech yesterday senator Kennedy said "Iraq has become George Bush's Vietnam."
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06-04-2004 00:24
you sure have a warped view of history... do you drink before you post online?
What democratically elected leader?
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