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The diplomat is offline The diplomat
King
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Sep 1999
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I pray Bush wins re-election because if Kerry wins, we are all screwed.

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Questions for diplomant:

1. Has George W. Bush ever screwed up?

2. Under what circumstances is it okay to point this out?

3. Should he be accountable for his actions?

4. Why do the answers to questions 1 thru 3 not apply to Democrat presidents?

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Originally posted by The diplomat


What is ridiculous is that some people are assuming that Bush and Cheney are appearing together for some inapropriate alterior motive, so that they can "get their stories straight". There is nothing wrong with the President and the Vice President testifying together.


Yes there is. Becuase they invariably influence the answers the other gives. When you are making an investigation you want to get a view into what people were thinking back then as much as possible. If someone is next you you asnwering questions in some way, invariably, what the other person said will color your narrative, and make it less likely to get to the truth as the person saw it at the time in question.

What is trully ridiculous is endlessly making excuses for this administration, specially when the explination given by the amdin. are so piss poor, if only becuase they could not spin anymore without going into dishonesty.

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When Bush speeks, I hope someone is watching Cheney's lips.

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Apr 2001
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Diplomat: There's no reason FOR them to testify together. So far, the only reason that the White House has been able to come up with is that it is that it would be efficient for Bush and Cheney's schedule.

Everyone else testified alone, under oath, even Bill Clinton (AFAIK).

This administration thus far has had to be dragged screaming and clawing through this process, from founding the 9/11 commission to providing it with information to testifying. This is just another example of their unwillingness to be straightforward in finding out what happened leading up to, during, and after 9/11, which is sad given their promises to restore 'honor and integrity' to the White House following Clinton's numerous scandals.

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Jul 2000
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What is ridiculous is that some people are assuming that Bush and Cheney are appearing together for some inapropriate alterior motive, so that they can "get their stories straight". There is nothing wrong with the President and the Vice President testifying together.


There's a huge problem with it, stemming largely from the administration's abysmal handling of the 9/11 commission in general. First they oppose its creation, then they deny it access to documents, then they deny access to Rice, and now Bush and Cheney appear together. Taken together, the combination of these stances, even if each is distinct and has its own rationale, looks like one huge CYA. If anyone thinks that Bush and Cheney can testify without a serious perception problem, they are kidding themselves. This administration, at the very least, is not considering the need to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

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Dec 2002
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Originally posted by The diplomat

Aren't you afraid of the Secret Service coming after you?


In Canada? Based on flippant remarks made on a flame laden website?

No.

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Aug 2001
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You should be, but it would prolly take a bit more than that for the powers that be to notice you.

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What if I told them my name is Abdul Al-Agathon?

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Jun 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by The diplomat
Did it occur to this dumbass reporter that Cheney is apearing with Bush because he is VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE USA and thus would undoubtly have something to contribute to the hearing and it is more pratical to interview both the president and the vice-president together rather than have 2 separate hearings and ask the same questions twice?


I think the police should start interviewing suspects together. It's much more efficient time wise and they will be able to catch and correct each other' mistakes.

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I pray Bush wins re-election because if Kerry wins, we are all screwed.


If Kerry wins, we're screwed. If Bush wins, we're sodomized and deep-throated.

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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
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So gay people should vote for Bush, che?

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What if I told them my name is Abdul Al-Agathon?


You might get a phone call asking if you want to report any suspicious activity at the local mosque...

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So gay people should vote for Bush, che?


Gay people like bush too.

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Only if they are women .

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You might get a phone call asking if you want to report any suspicious activity at the local mosque...


It'd be funny if it wasn't true. My friend's mother got a visit after 911 because she's involved in some Islamic charity. I think the charity aimed to improve literacy among Islamic women - hardly one of Bin Laden's favourite causes.

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quote:
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Only if they are women .


Ever hear the King Missile tune, Double F*cked by Two Black Studs?

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It'd be funny if it wasn't true. My friend's mother got a visit after 911 because she's involved in some Islamic charity. I think the charity aimed to improve literacy among Islamic women - hardly one of Bin Laden's favourite causes.


Well, at least they are being open about it.

'Hi, I'm with the RCMP, can I speak to Abdul?'

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quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Sparky
When Bush speeks, I hope someone is watching Cheney's lips.


Question:

Cheney: blah, blah, blah.

Bush: What he said.

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*runs off to the bathroom to smear face with brown boot polish and don fake beard.

"A thousand apologies good sirs, my wives were being noisy."

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Well this has certainly taken a turn towards the ugly.

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The whole thing is painful.

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Dec 1999
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His prepared speach was tolerable to good. His Q&A was horrible. (Emphasis on lack of A)

Was it my imagination, or did he refer to both Powell & Rumsfeld as Secretary of State in his prepared speach?

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Feb 2001
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Two things:

I could have sworn he said secretary of state Rumsfeld.

And suiciders? Come on.


So slipping up when speaking in public somehow has bearing on his policy?

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So slipping up when speaking in public somehow has bearing on his policy?


What if he gives the wrong orders?

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Sounds like the US will be sending about 10,000 more troups to Iraq - that will take a min. of 5-6 weeks. Of course, the coalition will withdraw in about 10 weeks. Bush better break out the mustard gas (just like the Brits did during the last occupation).


Transfer of sovereignty is different from withdrawing the troops.

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What if he gives the wrong orders?


That's not speaking in public.

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quote:
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That's not speaking in public.


That wasn't a serious question.

 
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