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Agathon is offline Agathon
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Some uncomfortable moments so far. Nice to see some journalists have got their spines back.

Thoughts?

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Bush is looking absolutely dreadful. No wonder his handlers never let him do press conferences, he is looking like an idiot.

Of course no politicians really answer questions directly, but he just isn't good at dodging. He is bumbling and rambling and looks quite like a fool. I'm amazed his advisors even let him do this open press conference, and I'm surprized they didn't prepare him better.

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Now look at him, he can't even spit something out. Whew.

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He's doing pretty well. And you nescient kids don't know otherwise. I mean you hate him because he is Bush and you attack him where he doesn't have a weakness. Very baseless and very weak. The only fools around here are those who criticize him.

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Are you trying for another catch phrase, Giancarlo?

I'm sorry, but "nescient" doesn't have much of a ring to it. You can stop puting it in every post you make.

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I think he is doing a really good job. He appears thoughtful, honest, and sincere.

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Oh my, theres a jouranlist just RAMMING bush right now

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Sounds like it might be fun to watch a recording of this tommorow. (preferably of just the awkward moments. )


Someone post a link when it's available.

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Are you trying for another catch phrase, Giancarlo?

I'm sorry, but "nescient" doesn't have much of a ring to it. You can stop puting it in every post you make.


He is also doing a very good job in answering the questions. He appeared with great conviction and great strength. He wasn't moved by any of the questions.

You should just grow up and stop attacking the man because he is Bush. It gets very old.

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Oh my, theres a jouranlist just RAMMING bush right now


That journalist just got his ass kicked.

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I'm sorry Fez but you'd give Goebbels a run for his money at complete, utter, BS.

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He is also doing a very good job in answering the questions. He appeared with great conviction and great strength. He wasn't moved by any of the questions.

You should just grow up and stop attacking the man because he is Bush. It gets very old.



That journalist just got his ass kicked.


Geroge Bush makes me horny

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Giancarlo, we all get that you like Bush, but I mean just look at the conference unbiasedly. He stumbled the whole time. Couldn't get words out, gave extremely unsatisfying answers. No matter what he was asked he said "uhh, the bad guys are bad and we're gonna get them."

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I'm sorry Fez but you'd give Goebbels a run for his money at complete, utter, BS.


Back at you. You are full of utter, complete B.S.

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Giancarlo, we all get that you like Bush, but I mean just look at the conference unbiasedly. He stumbled the whole time.


No he didn't. He made a stand against some unreasonable reporters and he even made the statement "I understand how some people would feel of the situation and see some doubts". Apparently you didn't watch it.

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Seriously though...He did a really REALLY bad job at that It was most entertaining.

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I think he sounded awkward a lot, especially when he refused to answer the questions. But he also seemed sincere and resolute.

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No matter what he was asked he said "uhh, the bad guys are bad and we're gonna get them."


Sounds familiar.

Giancarlo

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People who like Bush will think he did well, people who hate Bush will think he did badly. Wow, so much gained.

He certainly has been evasive to some of the questions. I like the time one CNN reporter basically said: a criticism of your admin. is that whatever happens, you never admit mistakes-is that a valid accusation?

Bush's answer in so many words? Our Iraq policy was justified.

IN fact, Bush had 2 answer today to all questions:

1. OUr Iraq policy was justified-stay the course
2. No one could have seen 9/11 coming but those problems are gone now.

The question didn;t matter, you got one of those two answers.

Great at keeping the message, but why even invite the press?

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He was dodging around all sorts of questions up there.

"Do you think the criticism that you don't admit mistakes is fair?" was eventually answered as "Well, Saddam is bad"

"Why are you and Cheney insisting on appearing before the 9/11 commission together, not seperately like was requested?"
"We want to answer all their questions"
"But why together?"
"We want to answer all their questions"

TURKEY FARMS

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He really is an awful speaker. I just couldn't stop cringing.

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The idiot couldn't once admit that he was wrong, even when he was thrown a softball (is there any mistake you've made, Mr President?).

When you get a question like that you find some mistake that is forgiveable, then you don't look like a sanctimonious jackass. But of course, Bush would rather look like a sanctimonious jackass.

Bringing up WMDs and insisting (again, even though he knows it's not true) that Saddam was an ally of Al Qaeda just made him look like a doofus. Saddam hated Al Qaeda, and they him. OBL never lost an opportunity to take a shot at him.

He got hammered on CBC Newsworld by Henry Champ, who is usually rather moderate. I guess he'll get an easier time from US networks.

Still, it could have been a lot worse for him.

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I don't think those reporters were unreasonable at all, I think they finally asked the tough questions that needed to be asked. There is a lot going on, I think it is entirely appropriate for the public to ask him what is going on.

He didn't give any answers at all.

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People who like Bush will think he did well, people who hate Bush will think he did badly. Wow, so much gained.

He certainly has been evasive to some of the questions. I like the time one CNN reporter basically said: a criticism of your admin. is that whatever happens, you never admit mistakes-is that a valid accusation?

Bush's answer in so many words? Our Iraq policy was justified.

IN fact, Bush had 2 answer today to all questions:

1. OUr Iraq policy was justified-stay the course
2. No one could have seen 9/11 coming but those problems are gone now.

The question didn;t matter, you got one of those two answers.

Great at keeping the message, but why even invite the press?


Very true. He dodged many questions. If he had at least said "Yes I've made mistakes, I'm human and therefore I make mistakes" I could at least respect that.

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Well, we knew what we were getting. Has the same cringe factor as his father.

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Agathon, shut up. Your criticism is not useful and is nothing more then ad hominems. I mean give it a damn rest... what the **** would you do? Let terrorists in this country? Doing nothing?

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Agathon, shut up. Your criticism is not useful and is nothing more then ad hominems. I mean give it a damn rest... what the **** would you do? Let terrorists in this country? Doing nothing?


Agathon, DanS, Tass, BC....

This is being universally panned, Fez

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Agathon, DanS, Tass, BC....

This is being universally panned, Fez


Agathon? Tass? Yeah very uncredible people who have terrible opinions... moving along..

And this is what DanS said:

"But he also seemed sincere and resolute."

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Agathon, shut up. Your criticism is not useful and is nothing more then ad hominems. I mean give it a damn rest... what the **** would you do? Let terrorists in this country? Doing nothing?


Do you find that people tend to point and laugh at you?

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Do you find that people tend to point and laugh at you?


Or at laugh at you because of your utterly ridiculous political views?

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I can't understand why Bush did this. His internal polling must be really dire to force him to take such a risk. Karl Rove may be amoral and despicable but he's not stupid. What gives?

 
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