28-04-2004 00:21									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Saras Of course I've bought some Tzarist war bonds of 1915 in an antique store, so I'm biased

	28-04-2004 00:21									#62
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How much would they be worth?

	28-04-2004 00:24									#63
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About as much as a wooden nickle.

	28-04-2004 00:25									#64
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100 roubles a piece. No clue with todays value. They cost me ~1 US dollar apiece.

But the coupon would have accrued to a nice amount

	28-04-2004 00:26									#65
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quote: Originally posted by DanS About as much as a wooden nickle.

HEY!!!

	28-04-2004 01:23									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Saras HEY!!!

Upset that Dan is dissin' the Lithuanian National Currency?

	28-04-2004 02:35									#67
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That's an awful lot of swampland, Che. We just had a big dustup in Alabaster, where they did exactly what the bill proposes allowing, on behalf of Wal-Mart, and got away with it. Phugging disgusting.

	28-04-2004 02:45									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi That's an awful lot of swampland, Che.

While it's obviously a joke, I am surprised daily with new revelations about the coruption of our officials. And no one does anything about it. It's just part of life in Florida.

	28-04-2004 08:19									#69
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Give it back to Russia, in exchange for the Kuriles.

	28-04-2004 08:51									#70
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Bury Putin in it.

No really. Bury Putin in it.

	28-04-2004 08:59									#71
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara While it's obviously a joke, I am surprised daily with new revelations about the coruption of our officials. And no one does anything about it. It's just part of life in Florida.

I grew up about 15 minutes from the Alabama-Florida line and about an hour from Tallahassee, so I know exactly what you mean. And oops on forgetting the joke-acknowledging smiley.

	28-04-2004 12:27									#72
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quote: It's Japan's gold. If Russia wants it, they should give Japan something.

But it isn't Japan's gold. It can be traced to being stolen from the country and placed in accounts from anti-Bolsheviks. From all indications it seems the whites just send the gold to Japan for storage, which is why it hasn't been spent.

quote: If the people on the island are japanese then would'nt the island be a japanese island. hmn. So why would Russia have to give control of the island and the people back to japan.

Simply because the people on the island are of Japanese ancestry means jackshit. Russia has ownership of the islands so they are Russian islands. Enough said.

	28-04-2004 12:34									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Give it back to Russia, in exchange for the Kuriles.

	28-04-2004 13:02									#74
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Maybe the Russians shouldn't have gone an killed their Czar in the first place. In my mind, it's fair game.

	28-04-2004 13:10									#75
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi Maybe the Russians shouldn't have gone an killed their Czar in the first place. In my mind, it's fair game.

So because Russia changed its government, its fair game to steal the gold?

Its Russias gold, and unless you want Putin to be President over Russia for the next dozen or so years....It'd be wise to help improve the Russian economy

	28-04-2004 13:12									#76
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Would you want your gold to go to the people who killed you?

	28-04-2004 13:33									#77
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quote: Simply because the people on the island are of Japanese ancestry means jackshit. Russia has ownership of the islands so they are Russian islands. Enough said.

By that logic, the gold is Japan's. Japan has ownership over the gold, so it is Japanese gold. Enough said...

	28-04-2004 13:36									#78
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Sure, as long as you can find a Czar to return it to.
BTW - What's the statue of limitation on plundering someone's national treasury?

	28-04-2004 13:37									#79
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi Would you want your gold to go to the people who killed you?

Sure.

	28-04-2004 14:32									#80
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quote: By that logic, the gold is Japan's. Japan has ownership over the gold, so it is Japanese gold. Enough said...

Word ..... Japan doesn't own the gold, they are just looking after in their bank and are being difficult in giving it back.

Ownership of the gold was never in dispute as far as I'm aware.

	28-04-2004 16:45									#81
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Should Japan Return The Czar's Gold?

Absolutely.
Why should we pay Tzars's debt while we can't get back some of his property?

It's a bit unfair aproach.

	28-04-2004 16:53									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten How about a trade? Russia can have the czar's gold back if they agree to give back the islands (Sakhalin & Kuriles) that they stole from Japan...

Stolen, my ass. Those lands belonged to Russia untill Japan stolen them after their war of agression against Russia. If in 2105 Russia will invade Texas, take it from you and if you'll attack Russia later, in 2145 and return Texas back to America, will it be thievery of Russian land "Texas"?

	28-04-2004 17:55									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui It can be traced to being stolen from the country and placed in accounts from anti-Bolsheviks.

So what. Russia doesn't have it. If they want it back, it would be wise to make it worth Japan's while.

	28-04-2004 18:42									#84
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If we are will not get back the Tzar's property, I don't see why we should pay Tzar's debt.

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quote: Originally posted by DaShi Maybe the Russians shouldn't have gone an killed their Czar in the first place. In my mind, it's fair game.

The Tsar was a bloody war criminal. He should have been executed . . . after a trial, of course.

	28-04-2004 18:45									#86
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Japan's response: Don't make us destroy your navy again!

Unfortunately you showed them already that good navy can't do nothing against nuclear power.

	28-04-2004 18:46									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Serb If we are will not get back the Tzar's property, I don't see why we should pay Tzar's debt.

You already repudiated the Tzar's debt. Try harder if you wish the gold back.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The Tsar was a bloody war criminal. He should have been executed . . . after a trial, of course.

Exaclty. And those morons in Russian Ortodox Church made him a saint. How the person who is resposible for 1905 "bloody sunday" massacre could be a saint is beyond me.

	28-04-2004 18:51									#89
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You could make the argument that in ownership disputes, custody is 9/10ths of the law.

	28-04-2004 18:52									#90
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc You already repudiated the Tzar's debt. Try harder if you wish the gold back.

Unfortunately no. Russia still pay off this debt every year. The Bolshevicks repudiated this debt, but this dumbass Yeltsin, confirmed our obligations after collapse of the USSR and we have to pay off this debt.
So, it's pretty logical to demand property of the person whose debt is laid on owr shoulders. Isn't it?