01-06-2004 23:17									#151
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I'm really sorry to hear about your mother. Your father needs someone to lean on. Perhaps you can petition the army to extend your leave a bit so you can be with him. Failing that, try to get him some grief counseling. Many churches offer this and support groups gratis.

	03-06-2004 03:19									#152
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Hi John,

Sorry to hear your mom has passed. She will be missed. Email me at codextemprus@yahoo.com as you get a chance and I can give you my cell number if you need to talk about it.

Your friend forever,
Tracy

	04-06-2004 19:08									#153
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin ... When he saw me he started to cry (my father never cries)

Mine did when my mum died.

The funeral was kind of a relief - it happened after a long illness. But it took many months, even years, for us all to be able to laugh again.

My aunts never forgave my Dad for remarrying. As I can appreciate the hell he was in, I'm glad he did.

My heart is sad for you - but I have been there, and the pain will grow less so long as you let it out.

Best wishes at a sad time.

	06-06-2004 20:39									#154
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Well, my mother was very insistant that she didn't want a funeral nor a memorial. We still wanted to do something though so we had something like an Irish wake. Yesterday, we invited a bunch of friends and family over and then we looked at pictures and talked about things we remembered. It was really nice.

She requested that her body be cremated and when the process is done my father, sister, and I will rent a boat so we can scatter her ashes in the Pacific ocean off of California.

	06-06-2004 20:48									#155
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It's good you had something. We're all pulling for you.

	06-06-2004 20:55									#156
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You know, I will think about copying your mum. That sounds altogether better than a traditional church service.

	07-06-2004 00:52									#157
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Well, my mother was very insistant that she didn't want a funeral nor a memorial. We still wanted to do something though so we had something like an Irish wake. Yesterday, we invited a bunch of friends and family over and then we looked at pictures and talked about things we remembered. It was really nice. She requested that her body be cremated and when the process is done my father, sister, and I will rent a boat so we can scatter her ashes in the Pacific ocean off of California.

Sounds like a great way to remember her.

	15-06-2004 09:30									#158
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So my two weeks of leave will be up tomorrow and I will be heading back to Iraq. I don't want to sound down but I really wish I could stay a bit longer. Last Saturday we finally got my mother's ashes from the crematorium and per her wishes we rented a sail boat and scattered her ashes in the Pacific Ocean off the coast at Point Loma. It was a quiet affair with just my father, sister, aunt (my mother's sister), and myself.

For the last three days I've been trying to shop for a town home here in San Diego. The prices have gotten absolutely unreal; last December I looked around and in most areas the housing prices have shot up 20%-30% in the last SIX MONTHS! The same design in the same complex that was going for $300,000 in December are now going for $400,000 in June.

	15-06-2004 10:12									#159
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be careful out there

Your many friends here will be thinking of you

	15-06-2004 10:22									#160
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Thank you my Australian friend.

	15-06-2004 11:00									#161
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I left my heart to the sappers round Khe Sanh
And my soul was sold with my cigarettes to the blackmarket man
I've had the Vietnam cold turkey
From the ocean to the Silver City
And it's only other vets could understand.

	15-06-2004 11:01									#162
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www.freaksinc.tk

	15-06-2004 15:35									#163
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What the heck is that link?

	15-06-2004 17:04									#164
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quote: What the heck is that link?

spam

Just ignore it, UR will prob delete the post sooner or later.

Re: your mother:
People die. Life goes on. Sad, yes, but I hope you've already got over it, no use in wasting your life just mourning for people you can't bring back to you anymore. If your father's in shock because of it, the best gift you can give to him is to come back alive from your job.

	15-06-2004 17:19									#165
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My father seems to have gotten much better in the last two weeks. I would say he was very shocked initially though.

	16-06-2004 08:00									#166
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quote: Originally posted by VJ Re: your mother: People die. Life goes on. Sad, yes, but I hope you've already got over it, no use in wasting your life just mourning for people you can't bring back to you anymore. If your father's in shock because of it, the best gift you can give to him is to come back alive from your job.

Absolute worst advice I have ever heard in my life.

	16-06-2004 08:11									#167
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Absolute worst advice I have ever heard in my life.

If you take it too literally.... but if you take mourning to the extreme, that is terrible too....

	16-06-2004 08:21									#168
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That's true.

But I wouldn't want to see someone bottle up all thier emotions without actually dealing with them. People can bottle them up now but they will eventually all come out and it usually happens at the worst and unexpected time. I see alot of people "being strong" but then it doesn't work because those buried feelings manifest themselves in other ways that they may not be aware of.

I think the man upstairs gave us all these emotions, even the bad ones, for a reason and we should respect all of them, understand them while they work their way through, instead of trying to chase them away.

Best of thoughts to you and Oerdin.

	16-06-2004 09:22									#169
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So off to Iraq tonight Oerdin? Hope it is a good flight. Looking forward to the first update of local conditions from 'Poly's "Man on the scene".

	18-06-2004 17:49									#170
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I just arrived in Baghdad and I'm quite jetlagged. I got bumped twice by United Airlines and I had to change my route so I went to London through San Fransisco instead of Washington DC but everything worked out fine in the end. Damn, it is hot here and I haven't gotten to shower for two days. It's going to take some time to adjust back to this place again.

	19-06-2004 02:44									#171
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	19-06-2004 03:33									#172
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Remind me to never fly on United Airlines. What is the temperature out there?

	19-06-2004 03:43									#173
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I got bumped twice by United Airlines.

So, they thought; we got to make a choice for this sorry ass that's risking his life in the line of service and this fat business-man to get the decent fligth. Of cource we'll chose the business-man. The rest of you are just cannon-fodder.

	19-06-2004 15:35									#174
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley What is the temperature out there?

Today's high was 42 degrees C with tomorrow's high 45 degrees C (that's about 113 degrees for the rest of us).

	19-06-2004 15:36									#175
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin So, they thought; we got to make a choice for this sorry ass that's risking his life in the line of service and this fat business-man to get the decent fligth. Of cource we'll chose the business-man. The rest of you are just cannon-fodder.

I didn't complain. It meant I got an extra day and a half in America.

	19-06-2004 15:43									#176
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DAMMIT, I WANT YOU TO SEND ME TO HELL, AND SEND ME TO HELL THIS INSTANT!

	19-06-2004 15:49									#177
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Exactly.

	19-06-2004 17:42									#178
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45 degrees, phew! The humidity's not too bad though, is it?

	19-06-2004 18:17									#179
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Not to bad.

	20-06-2004 01:24									#180
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I just arrived in Baghdad and I'm quite jetlagged. I got bumped twice by United Airlines and I had to change my route so I went to London through San Fransisco instead of Washington DC but everything worked out fine in the end. Damn, it is hot here and I haven't gotten to shower for two days. It's going to take some time to adjust back to this place again.

Oh yeah? My United Flight outta SD to Chicago was delayed an hour and 20 minutes. My connector flight was already boarding when we put down. I had to run the two hundred meter dash with a backpack and a C-bag knocking over people on the people mover. ("It's a people mover, not a people stander, damnit!")

Seriously, glad you made it okay.