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duke o' york
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I voted "late", as from what I've gathered I waited to long at level 6, and should have done it slightly earlier. But still, we'll see what happens.
And my kobolds are fine, thank you for asking. 
Call it the opportunity to blatantly +1, but I'd be interested in knowing which parties everyone likes. Both games, good and evil parties, funniest parties, etc.
Just list them, with as much detail as you like - either just names or reasons why you chose them.
Then I can steal your favourite parties for BGII and use this knowledge when I evenually get that far. 
Oh, and with that in mind, pelase don't lie. If anyone picks Garrick then I'll know you're lying. 
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:35
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Thief, easily. Low level thieving abilities really aren't enough, especially with Tutu. I would dual about level 8 though, if she wasn't already in BGII.
My fave party:
PC fighter, mage or fighter dualed to mage, depending of how I feel.
Minsc (need an upfront fighter)
Dynaheir (need magic, lots of it)
Imoen -> Coran (if I don't want to RP it)
Khalid (as an archer)
Jaheira
I occasionally use Kivan and Branwen or a the Dwarf Jamski mentions instead of Khalid and Jaheira, but usually like above.
Can I ask a BGII question. When Jaheria is summoned my Merelia (sp?) to the Harper Hold, how long until I get her back? I was about to go to Spellhold, but I want to go with her. Can do Rogue Stone Doorway and Kangaxx beforehand, as well as resting, and have walked back from the Keep (done without her) but I'd like to go pretty soon.
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Dis
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:35
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whoops, didn't realize we already hit 500.
copied and pasted from the other thread:
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Originally posted by duke o' york
I'm going to need Coran then.
Given the exp that I'll get off bandit-hunting, then would you advise that I duel Imoen asap, so that she gets a proper start in amassing all the exp required to get her thief skills back? Are there any traps in the forests where the bandits live? I have a funny feeling that there won't be, but though I'd better check before doing something rash and possibly irreversible.
yep, dual her asap, or not at all.
I probably should have dualled her at level 1 or 2 and used someone else as my thief. I prefer fighter/thieves. This is for my good party. In my evil party I am using Montaron (hafling fighter/thief). She can make a pretty good mage.
Although I don't think dynaheir is that bad. Why get rid of her? With the ring of wizadry (good luck finding that ), she has a ton of spells like magic missile.
Although I like Edwin a lot in my evil party.
Normally I wouldn't recommend dualling Imoen at that high a level, but if you get someone else for your thief, then that's okay. You can pretty much treat Imoen as a mage (don't count on using her as a thief anymore). Although I'm still not sure it's worth ditching dynaheir for her though (I'd have to look at their stats).
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Dis
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:35
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as for my status I have 2 parties in Baldur's Gate (I still have a few in BG2 as well, but I'm not currently playing that game).
My good party: Minsc, Adjantis, Branwen, Imone, myself (Human Bard), Dynaheir. currently in the eastern part of the great city of Baldur's Gate. Kind of inactive right now as I've been having so much fun with my evil party, and want to get them caught up.
My evil party: myself (half-elf fighter- most of my points in bows), Kagain, Montaron, Viconia, Edwin, Xcar. Currently in the area east of the temple which is east of Beregost. dumby me, I forgot about the mage spell: protection from petrification. Now I have casted that, things are very easy. I'll probably do that firewine bridge and dungeon, clear out a couple more areas in the east and then head up to the bandit camp. After that I may get those areas along the coast. I remember them sirenes being tough, so I'll get myself a little stronger.
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Dis
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:35
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My Baldur's Gate 2 parties vary widely. I've played several.
Minsc is an all time favourite. I use him alot. Almost every time. And I always use him at the beginning. I usually end up equipping him with Lilacor (the sentient sword), but I really should dual weild him. Next time I will.
Edwin I used to use even in my good parties. But lately I try to roll play a little better, and not mix alignments so harshly. But Edwin is so powerful...
For the same reason I used Viconia. Although Anomen is a capable cleric (pluse he is multiclassed with fighter I believe- so he should have a better thaco). But you have to make sure Anomen passes his test. I won't spoil it, just remember he aspires to be a paladin, so make sure he doesn't do anything un-paladin like. If you use Viconia give her the Crom Faer or something to raise her pitiful strength.
I sometimes us Jan as my thief and second mage. Although as I said before I prefer fighter/thieves. I never backstabbed with him, but he can easily get his thieving skills high enough to find, disarm traps, and unlock doors. I usually use him in evil parties. In good parties I will use Yoshimo/Imoen.
Lately I've been trying to use Aerie. Although she's kind of annoying, and real weak to start. People have been telling me she can develop into a powerful character, we'll see.
I don't like Jaheira at all really. I can't even bother to complete all her quests (esp. since on of them takes like 100 days or something). I should just let her die of that disease she gets.
Korgan is very powerful to use in evil parties. I almost always use him in evil parties.
And there is also another evil guy you can use, but only in the expansion. I will not list the name though, as that would be a spoiler. He's evil though (but can be swayed). Probably the most pwerful fighter in the game.
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Jamski
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lol ED&D is officially full PvP LOL
May 2002
time: 05:35
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Viconia. Hmmm...
Nice character, hot babe.... BUT.
But she's just so weak. She has a crappy STR, crappy Thac0, and can only get 1 attack per round, not to mention that simply adding her to the party gives you a -2 rep, so you need to drop her and re-add her every time you buy something (I mean 20% savings here, folks)
Anomen is better - very good STR, can get better stats by passing his test, levels only as a cleric, since he's a dual class, so no slower than Viconia, but has more attacks and better Thac0 than Viconia, so he can actually be of some use. Sure you can give Viccy the Crom Faeyr, but she'll still only swing it once every 180 clicks (6 seconds on normal speed) which is crap, basically.
Jaheria the same, although she's a Druid, so not quite as good because of the huge 1,5000,000 EXP needed for levelling 14 -> 15, this is kind of balanced by the fact she can get the Fighter HLAs which are rather good (unlike the clerical ones) and Nature's Beauty is a great spell
Airie is the 4th choice for a cleric, and even she is better than Viconia. Sure she's a bit fragile too, and her Thac0 and attacks/round are no better than Viccy's - not to mention that she'll be a level behind, but unlike Viconia, she can stay out of melee and actually be very useful. In fact, once she gets a few levels she's a casting powerhouse, simply she has too many spells. With a small party you can rely on her to cover buffing, healing, disabling and nuking all on her own. Sweet
So, of the clerical choices in BG2, I'm not sure why you think Viconia is the best. Single class clerics are rather poor.
-Jam
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Dry
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Brussels
Sep 2000
time: 06:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Drogue
Thief, easily. Low level thieving abilities really aren't enough, especially with Tutu. I would dual about level 8 though, if she wasn't already in BGII.
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Key levels for thieves are (iirc) 1, 5, 9 and 13 were the backstab damage multiplyer changes.
For THAC0, thieves change every odd level (iirc), so changing when you are on a even level is not ... 'effective'.
For those reasons, 4, 8 or 12th levels are - from my pov - worst choices to dual.
In the case of Imoen, if you want to dual her, I think 5 is a very good choice.
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Jamski
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lol ED&D is officially full PvP LOL
May 2002
time: 05:35
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quote:
Key levels for thieves are (iirc) 1, 5, 9 and 13 were the backstab damage multiplyer changes.
For THAC0, thieves change every odd level (iirc), so changing when you are on a even level is not ... 'effective'.
For those reasons, 4, 8 or 12th levels are - from my pov - worst choices to dual.
In the case of Imoen, if you want to dual her, I think 5 is a very good choice. |
This is why I dual Imoen at 4. At level 5 she gains no Thac0, and she's never going to be a decent backstabber with a STR of 9 is she?
The advantage of dualing at level 4 is you get the thief skills back faster. The aim is, of course, to make a mage who can use a bow, with an ok Thac0, and 100% stealth for perfect fireball/web/any area spell usage.
If you want someone with decent thievery skills and good backstabbing, then the game offers enough Fighter/Thieves, which are more suited to the task.
-Jam
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Jamski
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lol ED&D is officially full PvP LOL
May 2002
time: 05:35
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This applies if you have memorised the position of all the traps in the game, but I need 100% find traps more than stealth. |
There's much better characters to fill that role. A fighter/thief can max out traps and locks, then wear boots of Stealth and Shadow Armour to be pretty sneaky too. One thing BG1 (unlike BG2) is not short of is thieving little bastards
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Well... if by balanced you mean neither fun nor powerful She has to be buffed up with spells/items before she even has the STR to wear her armour or hold a mace or flail. God knows how she managed to get those proficiency points in weapons she's not strong enough to use... So that's either waste a STR item on someone that's only going to swing once a round, and probably miss, or continually buff her. So, she can't be risked in melee, as for ranged attacks, the best slings are those that add the STR bonus (whoops) and even then, they're only slings, pretty craptastic weapons really... or you use her as a caster, running about chucking spells, although since Anomen can cast all the same spells while also fighting in the front line...
Well, you see my point. Clerics in 2nd Edition are nice to have in the party, but noone ever wanted to play one.
-Jam
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06-05-2004 16:43
), because I enjoyed having Kagain in the party, and it semed to me that he'd become a great fighter later in the game. I didn't like Montaron and Xzar, but I suppose that I could put up with them if it meant killing Imoen at the crossroads. 
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