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Jaguar
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Montgomery County, MD
Apr 2000
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I recall a game show where people took IQ tests and the audience could play along on the website. They also answered a bunch of optional questions about their education, background, annual income, etc. One was political affiliation. Democrat and Republican both averaged at the same number, IIRC 102.
What these stats show is that the urban Northeast, where the vast majority of universities are, have higher IQs on average.
Here's a case in point. Take the highest rated state, Connecticuit. Its average, is, no doubt, high because of Yale and a few other universities there. My sister has an IQ of 175, and she goes to Yale. She votes in Maryland. It definitely is not the residents who are raising the score. Other than Yale, New Haven is, for the most part, a town of poorly educated low-income minorities. Hartford is similar. Obviously, non-resident university students are being counted. What's wrong with this picture? Connecticuit has a hugely inflated score, entirely because of people who don't vote there.
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:35
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Originally posted by Jaguar
Here's a case in point. Take the highest rated state, Connecticuit. Its average, is, no doubt, high because of Yale and a few other universities there. My sister has an IQ of 175, and she goes to Yale. She votes in Maryland. It definitely is not the residents who are raising the score. Other than Yale, New Haven is, for the most part, a town of poorly educated low-income minorities. Hartford is similar. Obviously, non-resident university students are being counted. What's wrong with this picture? Connecticuit has a hugely inflated score, entirely because of people who don't vote there. |
Is that because all students vote in their home state, or is that her choice? I know students here can choose, since their residence is at both for roughly equal times.
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:35
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Originally posted by Dissident
And no you cannot extrapolate IQ from education level. Technically only have a high school education, but I have a fairly high IQ. |
That is true, however it can be an indicator of how far in school you will go. IQ doesn't usually change much with education. My IQ now (end of high school) is pretty similar to my IQ taken 4 years ago (mid high school), and probably won't change during the time I'm at university (or at least I hope not). However people with a high IQ are more likely to go to uni. IIRC, I read a study a while ago that showed the average American has an IQ of 100, the average college graduate 115 and the average post-grad doctoral student 125.
You can teach, to some degree, IQ, in that practicing IQ tests will generally raise your score somewhat, but general education will not raise it. It may be able to give an educated guess as to whether you'd be able to go to college or post-grad stuff, but actually doing those will not raise your IQ by a significant margin.
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Oncle Boris
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Once in a brown moon
Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Drogue
That is true, however it can be an indicator of how far in school you will go. IQ doesn't usually change much with education. My IQ now (end of high school) is pretty similar to my IQ taken 4 years ago (mid high school), and probably won't change during the time I'm at university (or at least I hope not). However people with a high IQ are more likely to go to uni. IIRC, I read a study a while ago that showed the average American has an IQ of 100, the average college graduate 115 and the average post-grad doctoral student 125.
You can teach, to some degree, IQ, in that practicing IQ tests will generally raise your score somewhat, but general education will not raise it. It may be able to give an educated guess as to whether you'd be able to go to college or post-grad stuff, but actually doing those will not raise your IQ by a significant margin. |
Well, AFAIK, there are many questions that can be solved with acquired abilities, such as math. IQ tests also tend to have logical questions which are a breeze if you did Logic courses and the anagrams are usually very easy to those who play wordgames regularly.
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:35
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Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Well, AFAIK, there are many questions that can be solved with acquired abilities, such as math. IQ tests also tend to have logical questions which are a breeze if you did Logic courses and the anagrams are usually very easy to those who play wordgames regularly. |
All very true. You can teach IQ, and skills that will improve it. However general level of eduction does not increase IQ. Getting a degree, for example, will not raise your IQ, unless it teaches specific skills that improve it, like Logic or numeracy. Doing IQ tests, literacy/logic/number games will increase it. Getting a degree won't, usually.
Also, IIRC, it was found that even formal logic courses have only a small effect on a persons IQ, although this was read in the MENSA magazine a while ago, so I do not have an online source.
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Guynemer
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As if I wasn't going through a difficult enough time already, now I find out that Ohio's average IQ is the same as Michigan's.
That clinches it. Who can tell me how to tie a noose?
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07-05-2004 07:09
. And that even includes places like Newark and Camden.
First, because it seems to be a typically thing for CT'ers to have baseless despise for NJ. Second, because I happen to have pretty good info on just how ****ing nasty NJ is (environmental contamination).
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