08-05-2004 01:06									#61
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The way Che and I go at it could you just imagine us in the same room!

	08-05-2004 01:06									#62
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Rephrase that statement!

	08-05-2004 01:08									#63
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOoooopppppppsssssss DAMN!!!!!

Sorry Wasn't intended that way. Wait a minute......you pull your mind out of the gutter!

	08-05-2004 01:10									#65
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This from someone who dwells in the gutter.

	08-05-2004 01:12									#66
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Why is it that women are always moving things so that you can't find them.

Here's a typical conversation at my house.

"Bern, have you seen my lexicon? It's not where I left it."

"How would you know where anything is, you leave stuff lying everywhere."

"I left it in this pile of books, so I'd know where it was. I left Book X in this other pile and Book Y in that pile."

"How are you supposed to find anything like that."

"I can without fail, except when some PITA moves them."

	08-05-2004 01:13									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Theben This from someone who dwells in the gutter.

Well that was pretty rude.

	08-05-2004 01:14									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat That ones easy....double standard. It's ok for us to do it but you'd better not. Besides 9 times out of 10 no man is going to feel threatned if some guy walks by and their girl says oh he's cute. You guys just blow that off but we.....well we immediately look her up and down and start to pick apart what you think is cute and why we don't look like that and then we go into complete dementia and think that you want to sleep with her in about 3.5 seconds.

The last one is true.

	08-05-2004 01:15									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Why is it that women are always moving things so that you can't find them. Here's a typical conversation at my house. "Bern, have you seen my lexicon? It's not where I left it." "How would you know where anything is, you leave stuff lying everywhere." "I left it in this pile of books, so I'd know where it was. I left Book X in this other pile and Book Y in that pile." "How are you supposed to find anything like that." "I can without fail, except when some PITA moves them."

Are you an organized messer? I am. I can have things in a mess everywhere but still be able to locate what I am looking for.

	08-05-2004 01:18									#70
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Yes I am an OM, although the name is somewhat oxymoronic.

On the other hand, did anyone ever hear of the guy who cured himself of impotence by repeating "she is not my wife" before he got into bed?

	08-05-2004 01:36									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat Well that was pretty rude.

It wasn't a comment on you, it was a comment on your post history. I've seen where your mind has been. Repeatedly.

	08-05-2004 01:38									#73
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You win that point

	08-05-2004 01:46									#74
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I also see you haven't bothered to use any avatars I gave you.

	08-05-2004 01:55									#75
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat I hope this is on topic: what does a woman mean when she says something like "you are so sweet, I wish my boyfriend were more like you!"?

It's usally good to stay away from any woman that wants to complain about their boyfriend/man/ex-boyfriend/SO.

Plus they are anyway.

	08-05-2004 02:04									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Theben I also see you haven't bothered to use any avatars I gave you.

That would be because I'm woefully ignorant even with your wonderful explination on how to plus right now I'm at work so I didn't know if I could do it and take it off the work computer. I don't think they would appreciate a dragon picture on their computer. I want to use the doctor is in one.....just aren't sure how to.


Poor Ted. I think we finally found a woman Ted wouldn't want to hit

	08-05-2004 02:09									#77
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There are plenty of fish in the sea.

No reason to try eat one with a fishhook in it's mouth.

	08-05-2004 02:19									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker It's usally good to stay away from any woman that wants to complain about their boyfriend/man/ex-boyfriend/SO.

If they complained about their SO, because they actually wanted to dump them and be with me instead, that would probably be ok.

Three things I hate to hear women say to me:
"You are really great, but I only think of you as a friend"
"You are really great, I wish my boyfriend were more like you."
"You are exactly my type, but I don't think I am ready for a relationship right now."

And of course any of the two together is a killer.

	08-05-2004 02:21									#79
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By the way,

"I am not ready for a relationship" is womaneeze for "I still have strong feelings for my ex and I really want us to get back together."

	08-05-2004 02:23									#80
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat By the way, "I am not ready for a relationship" is womaneeze for "I still have strong feelings for my ex and I really want us to get back together."

Exactly!

	08-05-2004 02:24									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat quote: Originally posted by Thue I have once fallen for that one... I though I had most definently had made a mistake, and tried to apologize. She said it was ok, and I assumed she meant it. Of course then I got hell for it, and couldn't figure out why. OOoooooo ouch! And how long did you have to pay for it? I'm guessing at least two days

Two days? That was the trigger for two years of womaneeze.

I heard quite a lot of womaneeze trying to talk to her, because it was important for me to understand why she was acting as she did. I finally got it decoded, and concluded that her behaviour was mostly based on a few wrong assumptions and prior experiences with other guys. Of course I couldn't communicate this to her (mostly because she wouldn't listen) even though I seem to have understood her thoughts pretty well.

Recently she made her third attempt to become "friends" (ie smile as if everything was all right), but still refusing to have a real conversation or contemplate she had done anything wrong. I had rejected the 2 first.

I made an elaborate list to her of things she had done that I would like an apology for before I would want to see her again. I had checked my version of the story with one of her best friends to make sure it was reasonable (it checked pretty well).

She thought the list was was ridiculous and said so (without explanation), so I told her to get lost. She is probably still brooding over the grave injustice. It seemed to be very important to her to be "friends", not that that made go so far as to have the guts to actually talk to me.

I actually sometimes feel bad about having rejected her so, it seems to have hurt her a lot. Though I can't see that I have acted wrongly. Perhaps in twenty years she will be able to have a conversation with me without womaneeze. I am a bit curious about whether I may have missed a spot that would cast my overall behaviour into bad light, but even after much thought I really can't see it, so I will just assume not. If nothing else I can always plead that I would have fixed wrong behaviour if she had just told me about it .

The funny thing is that if she had been ably to just say what she meant and listen to the answers then things would probably have worked out easily. But she had to behave in womaneeze. If asked she would answer that she had to behave that way to protect herself. But IMO there would be no need to protect herself if she didn't behave that way.

	08-05-2004 02:27									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker There are plenty of fish in the sea. No reason to try eat one with a fishhook in it's mouth.

Very true. If nothing else I learned that...

	08-05-2004 02:38									#83
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quote: Two days? That was the trigger for two years of womaneeze.

Wow! I'm good but not that good.

quote: I finally got it decoded, and concluded that her behaviour was mostly based on a few wrong assumptions and prior experiences with other guys.

This is pretty standard. We do tend to carry around alot of extra baggage from past realtionships. And we tend to play the tape in our mind in the new relationship and make the new guy pay for it.

quote: Recently she made her third attempt to become "friends" (ie smile as if everything was all right), but still refusing to have a real conversation or contemplate she had done anything wrong. I had rejected the 2 first.

Big step considering you denied the first 2. A woman usually won't go back for a third time. You must have something there

quote: I made an elaborate list to her of things she had done that I would like an apology for before I would want to see her again. I had checked my version of the story with one of her best friends to make sure it was reasonable (it checked pretty well).

And there we have it ladies and gentlemen, the crowning blow. HUGE MISTAKE! First and foremost never, ever make a list for a woman of her transgressions. Well you can but don't ever expect to have sex with her again.

quote: She thought the list was was ridiculous

Of course she did. No woman in their right mind wants a man to 1) tell her she's wrong 2) make a list of what she did wrong 3) show her on the list what she did wrong 4) check it with her friends cause you know they told her 5) reject her after she's gulped her pride

quote: I actually sometimes feel bad about having rejected her so, it seems to have hurt her a lot.

Pride more then anything first, then her heart.

quote: The funny thing is that if she had been ably to just say what she meant and listen to the answers then things would probably have worked out easily. But she had to behave in womaneeze. If asked she would answer that she had to behave that way to protect herself. But IMO there would be no need to protect herself if she didn't behave that way.

It's an impossible thing for us to break it's bred into our systems. Frankly sometimes we don't even know we are doing it until it's out of our mouths.

	08-05-2004 02:42									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Thue The funny thing is that if she had been ably to just say what she meant and listen to the answers then things would probably have worked out easily. But she had to behave in womaneeze. If asked she would answer that she had to behave that way to protect herself. But IMO there would be no need to protect herself if she didn't behave that way.

This is enough of a reason for you wanting to look elsewhere. One should never try to live with a person who refuses to speak with clarity. Love is supposed to be also about trust.

	08-05-2004 02:45									#85
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quote: First and foremost never, ever make a list for a woman of her transgressions. Well you can but don't ever expect to have sex with her again.

My gf asks me to tell her what she's doing wrong. And I can hardly find anything (the best thing I found is her annoying way to hum )

And AFAIK, I'm still having sex with her

	08-05-2004 02:46									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor This is enough of a reason for you wanting to look elsewhere. One should never try to live with a person who refuses to speak with clarity. Love is supposed to be also about trust.

Agreed.

	08-05-2004 02:48									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor quote: First and foremost never, ever make a list for a woman of her transgressions. Well you can but don't ever expect to have sex with her again. My gf asks me to tell her what she's doing wrong. And I can hardly find anything (the best thing I found is her annoying way to hum ) And AFAIK, I'm still having sex with her

Yes sweetie but you didn't make a list. A list implies that there was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more then one thing. So you've made a list, put it on paper so you can show her on paper this, this, this, this, this, this is what you did wrong. It's a bit like having your teacher say ok you did a few things wright but I've marked up all the ones you did wrong.

	08-05-2004 02:58									#88
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Ok try to translate following text (well out of context is maybe not much use, but what the heck):

"I dont want to get with you in a relationship cose I fear you will end it soon. I dont want to get hurt, so better not get serious."

ok this is:
a) She doesnt like me and wants to get rid of me using a bs excuse
b) She thinks Im an ass and fears I break her heart
c) She is insecure and has problems believing someone wants to be with her for longer period of time...
d) other?

	08-05-2004 03:01									#89
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B.

The "again" says it all IMHO

	08-05-2004 03:04									#90
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That was not how it was said exactly. It was without the again. Meaning I was not with her before.