12-05-2004 03:03									#31
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Fullilove? What a strange name for a warrior.

	12-05-2004 03:05									#32
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It may be an americanization of a Russian name.

	12-05-2004 03:06									#33
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Say it slowly.

	12-05-2004 03:10									#34
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I know, I know.

	12-05-2004 03:30									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel The IDF prides itself on not having such a tomb, btw. "Every person has a name".

Yeah, I agree that Americans are sort of evil for not being able to identify some of their soldiers from among the over 100,000 who were killed over half a century ago.

	12-05-2004 03:33									#36
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Nice strawman. You don't have to identify the remains of the soldiers, all you have to have is the names of the soldiers killed.

	12-05-2004 03:37									#37
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Even that may be unrealistic when you consider the revolutionary or civil wars of the United States.

	12-05-2004 03:54									#38
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We have names of civilians killed during the Turkish rule in the 1860s.

I am mostly talking about the 20th century, seriously.

	12-05-2004 03:57									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel You don't have to identify the remains of the soldiers, all you have to have is the names of the soldiers killed.

You do have a point there. I suppose that Americans are sort of evil, not for being unable to identify some of their deceased soldiers, but rather for maintaining a centuries-old tradition from the time when they did not have a complete list of all deceased soldiers.

	12-05-2004 04:00									#40
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not sort of evil, demonic.

	12-05-2004 04:02									#41
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Demonic? So, like, mostly evil?

	12-05-2004 04:05									#42
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yeah. I mean, what's with the "barracks under the tomb" stuff, anyway?

	12-05-2004 04:50									#43
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Did anyone else notice this?

All else aside, I think mrmitchell brings up a very important point. I wonder if anything happened to that guy.

	12-05-2004 05:23									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel yeah. I mean, what's with the "barracks under the tomb" stuff, anyway?

That's where they grow 'em

	12-05-2004 05:30									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Theben All else aside, I think mrmitchell brings up a very important point. I wonder if anything happened to that guy.

Hehe, maybe he was in private?

	12-05-2004 06:08									#46
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quote: Did anyone else notice this?

I noticed that too... Still, that's a fuc*ed up rule anyway. Damn it all to hell.

	12-05-2004 06:16									#47
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I remembering seeing the change, it was nice... good facts, good to know there are people with a sense of duty to protect even those who hate this country.

	12-05-2004 09:19									#48
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Fullilove? What a strange name for a warrior.

Yes, along with my father two of the best fighter pilots (of course in my opinion) to come out of West Point. Fought in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. My father played football for West Point as well as taught there for a time.

	12-05-2004 10:20									#49
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I always wonder about the truth when SlowwHand puts in the word "interesting" for any of his threads.

	12-05-2004 10:52									#50
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Nothing wrong with showing respect for your country/countrymen. If I were in the military in some weird alternate universe, I'd want it to be in a capacity as honorable.

(not everyone feels the need to go out drinking and swearing anyways)

The thing that I do think is wrong about this is the height and waistsize restrictions.

	12-05-2004 11:11									#51
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Only those without honor would not understand. They would be doing me a favor by just staying away from the Tomb.

	12-05-2004 11:16									#53
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One thing that used to confuse me was that are "known" people in Tomb of the "Unknown".

	12-05-2004 11:24									#54
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well, since Nam ID technology is high enough that there aren't any more complete unknowns.

	12-05-2004 11:25									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel

What exactly is it you do not understand about honouring fallen comrades, or the importance some people may place on honouring those who paid the price at earlier dates?

Do you have the slightlest ****ing idea that some of those honoured in tombs like those were not brought back in large enough pieces for identification, and that others were never recovered from the seas of mud that sucked their liveless corpses down into the Earth?

What the **** do you know except how to make a first class ass of yourself on an internet forum while hiding behind the anonymity that protects you from getting your lights punched out?

	12-05-2004 11:34									#57
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I understand very well the honouring fallen friends and comrades, and that importance. And I understand very well the sircumstances under which some bodies were brought ( Get familiar with what happened around here, just a couple of days ago ). You can spare me the lecture, and you can spare me the 'Indignant Internet bully' behavior as well. My response was to the claim, that I, for some reason, can't have an honest debate about the need in such measures, without dishonoring those soldiers who died in battle, to the claim that I am somehow dishonourable, myself.

	12-05-2004 11:35									#58
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Sounds like these guys are more monks than they are soldiers.

Yes and they are performing a religious ritual.

I am surprised that in a time when nobody feel authorized not to respect even the most uncivilized religious stance, the only religion subject to critics is based on honor and pride.

	12-05-2004 11:37									#59
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither What exactly is it you do not understand about honouring fallen comrades, or the importance some people may place on honouring those who paid the price at earlier dates? Do you have the slightlest ****ing idea that some of those honoured in tombs like those were not brought back in large enough pieces for identification, and that others were never recovered from the seas of mud that sucked their liveless corpses down into the Earth? What the **** do you know except how to make a first class ass of yourself on an internet forum while hiding behind the anonymity that protects you from getting your lights punched out?

	12-05-2004 11:48									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel I understand very well the honouring fallen friends and comrades, and that importance. And I understand very well the sircumstances under which some bodies were brought ( Get familiar with what happened around here, just a couple of days ago ). You can spare me the lecture, and you can spare me the 'Indignant Internet bully' behavior as well. My response was to the claim, that I, for some reason, can't have an honest debate about the need in such measures, without dishonoring those soldiers who died in battle, to the claim that I am somehow dishonourable, myself.

I'm not talking about one post, bub. I'm talking about the whole pile of **** you and some other ***** have dumped in the whole thread. You were just handy.

As for why unnamed... just to let a mental midget like you in on the secret, it is not because they don't know the names, it is because there is not enough left to hang a name on some of the remains. It might just be a cultural thing, but most people around here like to know just who it is that is getting buried. The fact that these are unidentifiable is generally taken as a powerful reminder not only of their sacrifice, but of just what 'modern' war does to human beings. Maybe that answers one of your other moronic posts.