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TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER

Interesting facts about the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and the Sentinels of the Third United States Infantry Regiment "Old Guard"

Q: How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the Unknowns and why?

A: 21 steps. It alludes to the twenty-one gun salute, which is the highest honor given any military or foreign dignitary.

Q: How long does he hesitate after his about face to begin his return walk and why?

A: 21 seconds, for the same reason as answer number 1.

Q: Why are his gloves wet?

A: His gloves are moistened to prevent his losing his grip on the rifle.

Q: Does he carry his rifle on the same shoulder all the time, and if not, why not?

A: No, he carries the rifle on the shoulder away from the tomb. After his march across the path, he executes an about face and moves the rifle to the outside shoulder.

Q: How often are the guards changed?

A: Guards are changed every thirty minutes, twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a year.

Q: What are the physical traits of the guard limited to?

A: For a person to apply for guard duty at the tomb, he must be between 5' 10" and 6' 2" tall and his waist size cannot exceed 30".

Other requirements of the Guard:

They must commit 2 years of life to guard the tomb, live in a barracks under the tomb, and cannot drink any alcohol on or off duty FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. They cannot swear in public FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES and cannot disgrace the uniform {fighting} or the tomb in any way.

After TWO YEARS, the guard is given a wreath pin that is worn on their lapel signifying they served as guard of the tomb. There are only 400 presently worn. The guard must obey these rules for the rest of their lives or give up the wreath pin.

The shoes are specially made with very thick soles to keep the heat and cold from their feet. There are metal heel plates that extend to the top of the shoe in order to make the loud click as they come to a halt. There are no wrinkles, folds or lint on the uniform. Guards dress for duty in front of a full-length mirror.

The first SIX MONTHS of duty a guard cannot talk to anyone, nor watch TV. All off duty time is spent studying the 175 notable people laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery. A guard must memorize who they are and where they are interred. Among the notables are: President Taft, Joe E. Lewis {the boxer} and Medal of Honor winner Audie Murphy, {the most decorated soldier of WWII} of Hollywood fame. Every guard spends FIVE HOURS A DAY getting his uniforms ready for guard duty.

The Sentinels Creed:

My dedication to this sacred duty is total and wholehearted. In the responsibility bestowed on me never will I falter. And with dignity and perseverance my standard will remain perfection. Through the years of diligence and praise and the discomfort of the elements, I will walk my tour in humble reverence to the best of my ability. It is he who commands the respect I protect. His bravery that made us so proud. Surrounded by well meaning crowds by day alone in the thoughtful peace of night, this soldier will in honored glory rest under my eternal vigilance.

More Interesting facts about the Tomb of the Unknowns itself:

The marble for the Tomb of the Unknowns was furnished by the Vermont Marble Company of Danby, Vt. The marble is the finest and whitest of American marble, quarried from the Yule Marble Quarry located near Marble, Colorado and is called Yule Marble. The Marble for the Lincoln memorial and other famous buildings was also quarried there.

The Tomb consists of seven pieces of rectangular marble: Four pieces in sub base; weight Â- 15 tons;

One piece in base or plinth; weight Â- 16 tons;

One piece in die; weight Â- 36 tons;

One piece in cap; weight Â- 12 tons;

Carved on the East side (the front of the Tomb, which faces Washington, D.C.) is a composite of three figures, commemorative of the spirit of the Allies of World War I.

In the center of the panel stands Victory (female).

On the right side, a male figure symbolizes Valor.

On the left side stands Peace, with her palm branch to reward the devotion and sacrifice that went with courage to make the cause of righteousness triumphant.

The north and south sides are divided into three panels by Doric pilasters. In each panel is an inverted wreath.

On the west, or rear, panel (facing the Amphitheater) is inscribed:

HERE RESTS IN HONORED GLORY AN AMERICAN SOLDIER KNOWN BUT TO GOD

The first Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was a sub base and a base or plinth. It was slightly smaller than the present base. This was torn away when the present Tomb was started Aug. 27, 1931. The Tomb was completed and the area opened to the public 9:15 a.m. April 9, 1932, without any ceremony.

Cost of the Tomb: $48,000

Sculptor: Thomas Hudson Jones

Architect: Lorimer Rich

Contractors: Hagerman & Harris, New York City

Inscription: Author Unknown

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The Third Infantry Regiment at Fort Myer has the responsibility for providing ceremonial units and honor guards for state occasions, White House social functions, public celebrations and interments at Arlington National Cemetery and standing a very formal sentry watch at the Tomb of the Unknowns.

The public is familiar with the precision of what is called "walking post" at the Tomb. There are roped off galleries where visitors can form to observe the troopers and their measured step and almost mechanically, silent rifle shoulder changes. They are relieved every hour in a very formal drill that has to be seen to be believed.

Some people think that when the Cemetery is closed to the public in the evening that this show stops. First, to the men who are dedicated to this work, it is no show. It is a "charge of honor." The formality and precision continues uninterrupted all night. During the nighttime, the drill of relief and the measured step of the on-duty sentry remain unchanged from the daylight hours. To these men, these special men, the continuity of this post is the key to the honor and respect shown to these honored dead, symbolic of all unaccounted for American combat dead. The steady rhythmic step in rain, sleet, snow, hail, heat and cold must be uninterrupted. Uninterrupted is the important part of the honor shown.

Recently, while you were sleeping, the teeth of hurricane Isabel came through this area and tore hell out of everything. We had thousands of trees down, power outages, traffic signals out, roads filled with downed limbs and "gear adrift" debris. We had flooding and the place looked like it had been the impact area of an off-shore bombardment.

The Regimental Commander of the U.S. Third Infantry sent word to the nighttime Sentry Detail to secure the post and seek shelter from the high winds, to ensure their personal safety.

THEY DISOBEYED THE ORDER!

During winds that turned over vehicles and turned debris into projectiles, the measured step continued. One fellow said "I've got buddies getting shot at in Iraq who would kick my butt if word got to them that we let them down. I sure as hell have no intention of spending my Army career being known as the damned idiot who couldn't stand a little light breeze and shirked his duty." Then he said something in response to a female reporters question regarding silly purposeless personal risk... "I wouldn't expect you to understand. It's an enlisted man's thing." God bless the rascal... In a time in our nation's history when spin and total b.s. seem to have become the accepted coin-of-the-realm, there beat hearts - the enlisted hearts we all knew and were so damn proud to be a part of - that fully understand that devotion to duty is not a part-time occupation. While we slept, we were represented by some damn fine men who fully understood their post orders and proudly went about their assigned responsibilities unseen, unrecognized and in the finest tradition of the American Enlisted Man. Folks, there's hope. The spirit that George S. Patton, Arliegh Burke and Jimmy Doolittle left us ... survives.

On the ABC evening news, it was reported recently that, because of the dangers from Hurricane Isabel approaching Washington, DC, the military members assigned the duty of guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier were given permission to suspend the assignment. They refused. "No way, Sir!"

Soaked to the skin, marching in the pelting rain of a tropical storm, they said that guarding the Tomb was not just an assignment; it was the highest honor that can be afforded to a service person. The tomb has been patrolled continuously, 24/7, since 1930.

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That is ****ing ridiculous.

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How many are left psychologically unhinged by the deprivation and tedium?

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I wondered who would win the Jackass race, Che or Sava.
Congrats, Che. A winner, just as always.

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Just go back to your happy little cult and ignore me, Slowwy. Shame the military cares more about dead soldiers than live ones.

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I think it should be clear by now that this is actually just their cover for training American Sardaukar.

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And I thought that the Soviet guards had ****ed up lives. I mean, seriously. The Useless suffering that is inflicted upon these men ( willingly, yes, but that's besides the point ) is just screaming to high heavens. Their suffering doesn't honour the dead soldiers.

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I ME MINE
George Harrison


All thru' the day
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
All thru' the night
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
Now they're frightened of leaving it,
everyone's weaving it,
coming on strong all the time,
All thru' the day I me mine

All I can hear
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
Even those tears
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
No-one's frightened of playing it,
everyone's saying it,
flowing more freely than wine.
All thru' the day I me mine

I I me me mine I I me me mine
I I me me mine I I me me mine

All thru' the day
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
All thru' the night
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
Now they're frightened of leaving it,
everyone's weaving it,
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All thru' your life I me mine

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What suffering would that be, Azazel?

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Safest job in the military probably, no matter how boring.

Yet another thing built by NYkers that the barbarians elsewhere claim as their own....

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What suffering would that be, Azazel?


Not talking to anyone for 6 months (!), restricted freedoms, living a very tedious life etc.

The IDF prides itself on not having such a tomb, btw. "Every person has a name".

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Quoting George Harrison is not the smartest thing you can do Slowwy. If he were alive today he probably would have beaten Che in this so called Jackass race

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Yes, Az, but people VOLUNTEER for the job. No one forces them to, the soldiers want to do it because it is a great honor. It ain't for me, for some of those soldiers, it is important.

And if you've been to the Tomb, you'd see how moving the tribute is.

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So Az, what is the minimum entertaining and talking requirement for this to not be a tradgedy?

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Interesting read, could you provide a source for us?

And to the US and its servicemen for honouring the memory of their fallen with such dedication.

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Yes, Az, but people VOLUNTEER for the job. No one forces them to, the soldiers want to do it because it is a great honor. It ain't for me, for some of those soldiers, it is important.

And if you've been to the Tomb, you'd see how moving the tribute is.

I have no doubt it's very moving. I am just quite certain that this could've been just as moving without all of those draconian rules inplace.

quote:
So Az, what is the minimum entertaining and talking requirement for this to not be a tradgedy?


2.613*pi on the Ronald McDonald scale of entertainment.

How about not having those useless restrictions WRG to talking and harmless entertainment, at all? It still would be just as moving, and respectful, if this sort of ceremony is the best way, anyway ( I am not certain of that, but we'll take that as a given ) . You know, fellow soldiers that do their best to pay tribute to the memory of the fallen. This zombification ritual is weird, just as weird as the ballet lessons the Russian/Soviet honour guard takes. I think it should be in great shape, honorable, and impressive, but the common sense limit is crossed.

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I am just quite certain that this could've been just as moving without all of those draconian rules inplace.


Well, I'm sure they are in place also to keep people away except for those who REALLY, REALLY want it, and not just those looking for a cushy assignement (which it could be without the rules).

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Nothing wrong with not talking to anyone or watching tv for 6 months. Everyone should give it a try.


Sounds like these guys are more monks than they are soldiers.

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AHA! Ludd agrees with you. Now I know I won the argument.

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Just sounds like a really boring job to me

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Did anyone else notice this?
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"I've got buddies getting shot at in Iraq who would kick my butt if word got to them that we let them down. I sure as hell have no intention of spending my Army career being known as the damned idiot who couldn't stand a little light breeze and shirked his duty."



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They must commit 2 years of life to guard the tomb, live in a barracks under the tomb, and cannot drink any alcohol on or off duty FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. They cannot swear in public FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES and cannot disgrace the uniform {fighting} or the tomb in any way.

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There's nothing quite as hilarious as state-sponsored lunacy.

Isn't the "Tomb of the Unknown Soldier" a French concept, anyway?

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AHA! Ludd agrees with you.


That shut him up.

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I'd respond to you, but I'd end up agreeing with you, and that would be wrong.

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And I thought that the Soviet guards had ****ed up lives. I mean, seriously. The Useless suffering that is inflicted upon these men ( willingly, yes, but that's besides the point ) is just screaming to high heavens. Their suffering doesn't honour the dead soldiers.


The Soviet propaganda departmnent people tried to tell you these things....But did you listen? Nooooooooo

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Great read.

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Just go back to your happy little cult and ignore me, Slowwy. Shame the military cares more about dead soldiers than live ones.


If it's voluntary how does this make sense?

No-one forces them, period. To you or me it might seem inhumane and cruel but then again so is being a fakir in India. I, for one, could not live without alcohol for over 3 months... much less the rest of my life.

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Out of that 175 inturned there is General William A. Fullilove my uncle. Thank you for that article Sloww.

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