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Colonyan is offline Colonyan
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Apr 2003
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Hi, so Zeiter-PK
Nova-Uni
Colonyan-morgan
___-_____

?.Zeiter-PK
1. Nova-Uni
?.Colonyan-morgan
?.Deut-Believers

Last edited by Colonyan on 17-05-2004 at 20:29

Enigma_Nova is offline Enigma_Nova
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Nov 2003
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Rules: All as standard, except:
I don't know whether Co-op victory is enabled...
And we can begin inter-factional contact in 2101.

So bring out your tech trees, everyone!
(Do we have a taker for the Gaians?)

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Apr 2004
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I'd like to join.

Colonyan is offline Colonyan
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Hello,DetriusXii. Please give us your e-mail adress and the faction which you will play.

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Apr 2004
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Ok, I can be reached at ajelovic2@yahoo.com

I'd like to play as the Believer's.

Colonyan is offline Colonyan
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Apr 2003
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Ok, thanks. As soon as others confirm, we will start.
-smac game
-normal size planet and parameters set to medium
-AI players & difficulty level of one below transcendant
-for the other game options give me suggestions

Colonyan is offline Colonyan
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Apr 2003
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?.Zeiter-PK
1. Nova-Uni
?.Colonyan-morgan
?.Deterius-Believers

All medium, standard,transcendance.
I have the game file2101. Its Nova-uni's turn.
I didn't see it dont worry Nova.By the way I need your adress.

Enigma_Nova is offline Enigma_Nova
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Nov 2003
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Post -> reply
See the Attach file dialogue?
Saving that...

I -do- have e-mail. sob55@uow.edu.au .
It will automatically trash:
Hotmail
Yahoo
AOL
MSN

I -did- make a map for this game, but it doesn't seem so useful now.
It's attached down there.

Attachment: testalossa.zip
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

Zeiter is offline Zeiter
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Dec 2003
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  Old Post 18-05-2004 03:27
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Yay! Someone picked The Believers, a somewhat underrated faction, IMO. That should really make this game interesting. It is nice to have a mix of builder, hybrid, and momentum factions like we do here. You really get to see a wide variety of play styles and techniques.

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Nov 2003
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Colonyan - haven't received my turn yet..

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Nov 2003
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Unless someone asks me otherwise, I'm posting my turn in the turn thread.
...
Now do I get the turn from Colonyan, or do we play on from the land-bridges map I made?

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Nov 2003
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All right, it's been 24 hours.

I've made:
An islands map with lots of bridges
A map with a single continent

Which would you rather play on?
...if I get that turn from Colonyan, we play his game...

Colonyan is offline Colonyan
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Apr 2003
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Im very sorry. There was a problen with phone line.
I couldn't connect for a while....
Yes I have my turn! I will send you now.I'm sending y hotmail.

Last edited by Colonyan on 19-05-2004 at 21:34

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Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Enigma_Nova
I -do- have e-mail. sob55@uow.edu.au .
It will automatically trash:
Hotmail
Yahoo
AOL
MSN

Are you sure it's your phone line?
Maybe it's your brain that can't receive data?

http://www.mail.com
I've set you up as:
Colonyan@email.com
Password is moonshine

Send turn soon.

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Nov 2003
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Never mind - since it was less than 6 hours, the file was still in the trash.

Okay guys - it looks like we're playing on
BLIND RESEARCH
As far as the other settings, our CMN hasn't even divulged what settings we're using,
instantly putting himself at an unfair advantage.

What settings are we using?

Attachment: or simply attach it.txt
This has been downloaded 7 time(s).

Last edited by Enigma_Nova on 20-05-2004 at 01:50

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Apr 2003
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SO, did you get it?
I have also send it by mail.com

I mean ALL normal. I did not touched single stuff.

Last edited by Colonyan on 20-05-2004 at 02:09

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Nov 2003
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You -are- aware that one's PBEM settings are preserved from one narrated game to the next, aren't you?
*sigh*

Colonyan is offline Colonyan
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Apr 2003
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Er....I'm sorry if I have made some mistake.

I have things to ask you.

CMN hasn't even divulged what settings we're using,
instantly putting himself at an unfair advantage.

1.Whats CMN stand for?
2.You would like to set as non-blindresearch?

thankyou. by colonyan

Enigma_Nova is offline Enigma_Nova
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Nov 2003
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I can play blind and I can play non-blind.
It's better if I do Directed Research, because then a massive tech-trade plan can come into effect.

I've already done a first turn.
The game settings are:
Victories allowed:
Conquest
Diplomatic
Economic
Transcendence
Do or Die is on
Bell curve is on
Randomise leader personalities//social agendas is on
Standard//50-70//Average//Average//Average//Thinker

Communications lines are completely open at game start.
So, propose your pacts and share your tech!
------

On this note:
My first tech was Centauri Ecology.
I know this is valuable to you all, so I'll make a deal.
I'll give you this tech now,
In exchange for being able to pick a free tech later.
Here's how I look at things:

The IA beeline will be Colonyan's duty.
I'll give him CentEco now, and PlaNets when he researches IndEcon
In exchange, he gives me Industrial Automation when it's ready.

DetriusXii has a useful starting tech.
I'll give DetriusXii CentEco now.
In exchange, he gives Zeiter Social Psych.

Zeiter and I are going to tech-leap to Gene Splicing
I give DetriusXii CentEco and Social Psych now.
In exchange, he gives me Social Psych when I complete PlaNets,
and researches Ethical Calculus -almost- all the way,
He waits for me to give him Ethical Calculus.
He switches techs to Gene Splicing once I give him the tech.
Finally, he gives me Gene Splicing when it is available.


I have my first turn complete, but before I send, I need to know who's in on this deal.

Enigma_Nova is offline Enigma_Nova
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Nov 2003
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1.Whats CMN stand for?

Creator
Moderator
Narrator

Which means that I make the map, hassle slow turnplayers and spurt a bunch of blah about landing on planet.

Testalossa Zero - the new agency
*insert The Voyage to Alpha Centauri rewrite here*

...Santiago carried devices to alter the personalities of the people she met. The results were unpredictable, so the effects were unknown.
As Santiago met with Yang and Deirdre (and herself, obviously) then these three AI were affected with scrambled personality.

Meanwhile, Commissioner Zeiter, Brother DetriusXii, Provost Enigma and CEO Colonyan chatted to one another.
They chatted so much, they all decided to use the same communications frequency, and so could resume their conversations once they landed on planet.

*insert more usual blah about the wonders on planet and promoting ideologies and opening cans of whoop ass on anyone in their way*
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There, Created and Narrated.

Zeiter is offline Zeiter
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Dec 2003
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I have a slight preference for blind research, but either will do fine for me.

Concerning complicated tech swaps: Yes, I'll definitely go along with it, as long as you make it clear to me what I have to gain from it, and as long as it doesn't totally propel someone really far ahead.

Hmmm, randomized faction personalities and agendas, eh? I've never tried that before, but it sounds fun.

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All right with me. I will try as u say.Its first play.
So lets get moving the stuff!

Sorry, I have another question.Whats IA beeline?


...Santiago carried devices to alter the personalities of the people she met. The results were unpredictable, so the effects were unknown.
As Santiago met with Yang and Deirdre (and herself, obviously) then these three AI were affected with scrambled personality.

There is a interesting dialogue.

Nova,I buy your idea. So, the main idea is to let all the players have as many avaiable technologie possible? All right with me again. Well, the whole trade seems to me enogh complicated to me. I trust Nova to made the trade equal for all the player. Or, we trade freely until any hostility arise in the game...

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Nov 2003
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The trade seems fair enough.
You should start trading techs amongst yourselves, though - this is just an initial tech path.

Oh, and be careful around those pods - Data pods are nasty to encounter.

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quote:
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Concerning complicated tech swaps: Yes, I'll definitely go along with it, as long as you make it clear to me what I have to gain from it, and as long as it doesn't totally propel someone really far ahead.

Your gains are GeneSpl much sooner than average,
and IA slightly sooner than average.
My gains are GeneSpl and IA sooner than average.

quote:
Hmmm, randomized faction personalities and agendas, eh? I've never tried that before, but it sounds fun.

Deirdre will be mad at us for running Planned
Yang will be mad at us for running Democracy
Santiago will be mad at us for running Wealth

There's an off chance that we'll actually find an ally on the map if I scramble the personalities.

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Sorry, I have another question.Whats IA beeline?

InfNets --> PlaNets
IndBase --> IndEcon
IndEcon + PlaNets --> IndAuto

You start with IndBase, and you're getting PlaNets as a gift.
All you have to do is research Industral Economics and Industrial Automation (IA).
Sound easy enough?

quote:
So, the main idea is to let all the players have as many avaiable technologie possible?

It's to get the critical technologies faster.

quote:
I trust Nova to made the trade equal for all the player. Or, we trade freely until any hostility arise in the game...

Every trade seems reasonable to me.
I'll gift IA//GeneSpl once I get them - most likely for another tech allegiance.

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ok so where is our game? Is this starting ?

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Your gains are GeneSpl much sooner than average,
and IA slightly sooner than average.
My gains are GeneSpl and IA sooner than average.


Deirdre will be mad at us for running Planned
Yang will be mad at us for running Democracy
Santiago will be mad at us for running Wealth

There's an off chance that we'll actually find an ally on the map if I scramble the personalities.


Actually I once got a nice little quadruple alliance going with Lal, Deidre, and Zak by running demo/green/knowledge. Of course, it didn't last too long, because my pact mates soon started warring between themselves, and then accusing me of siding with the other faction, and yadda yadda yadda, you know how it goes. But it isn't impossible for pact mates with the regular faction personalities.

But I do have a question: With randomized personalities, do the AI's personalities continually switch, or do they randomize at the start of the game and then stay in that fashion. Because if they continually changed, then it would be quite difficult to keep a pact mate for long.

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Zeiter: You mean you don't use Dem/Planned/Wealth?
What are the benefits?
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One particular ISP has a monopoly for providing internet to my Dormitory. Take a look:

http://www.speedlink.com.au
My ISP went down at 5:30 pm on Friday.
The techs arrive at 9:00 am Monday.
This damn ISP:
$1030 for 20Gb
10% Downtime, 90% Uptime
1/3 of packets are lagged by at least 500ms
Tech support "aren't in right now" or "aren't available for comment" during office hours.
And of course, no-one can transfer your call to them outside those times...
And my favourite, told to me on March 22nd:
"We'll have that fixed up by mid-July."
Ed. Note: They can't buy the T3 bandwidth until they've finished being taken over - which will be by July.
They have 10 Mbit of bandwidth shared between 1000 people.

I'm starting an internet slander campaign against them.
If their share price starts falling, they'll know why.
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We'll start this game when:
1. you boot Detrius out of it
2. Detrius says 'Yea' or 'Nay' to the trade.

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Apr 2004
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Sorry. I was paying attention to the thread. But I wasn't aware that I had to respond to it. Yes I'm in agreement with the trade.

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I strongly advise that you wait until you've all researched a tech on your own before trading techs. There is a problem with the way the game implements tech costs that means that before you've researched your first tech, your tech cost can change (Up or down indeed). If you get a tech before you researched you first tech, your tech costs can go up by as much as 4x (or more indeed). It could be that none of you could research a tech before 2130...

And enigma, I'd like to apologise to you. I feel I've been quite rude to you, and I'm sorry.

 
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