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Originally posted by MrFun
Why is 60 years ago not considered recent history, if there are people still alive today who remember events 60 years ago?? |
Cause the context is WMDs.
Is Zork a recent computer game?
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A Yankee living in Shanghai
Apr 1999
time: 13:36
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NY Times has an AP story that it was a 155mm artillery shell rigged up as a crude roadside bomb.
Exploded in this way, the chemical would be largely ineffective (the two ingredients mix when the a wall between them breaks due to rotational force when the shell is fired).
The article noted that it is not clear whether whoever rigged the bomb even knew there was sarin inside.
Hey, wasn't Rumsfeld just in Iraq? 
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Sarin Nerve Agent Bomb Explodes in Iraq
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: May 17, 2004
Filed at 12:11 p.m. ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- A roadside bomb containing deadly sarin nerve agent exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday. It was believed to be the first confirmed finding of any of the banned weapons upon which the United States based its case for the Iraq war.
Two people were treated for ``minor exposure,'' but no serious injuries were reported.
The deadly chemical was inside an artillery shell dating to the Saddam Hussein era that had been rigged as a bomb in Baghdad, said Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the chief military spokesman in Iraq.
U.S. troops have announced the discovery of other chemical weapons before, only to see them disproved by later tests. A dozen chemical shells were also found by U.N. inspectors before the war; they had been tagged for destruction in the 1990s but somehow were not destroyed.
``The Iraqi Survey Group confirmed today that a 155-millimeter artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found,'' Kimmitt said. ``The round had been rigged as an IED (improvised explosive device) which was discovered by a U.S. force convoy.
``A detonation occurred before the IED could be rendered inoperable. This produced a very small dispersal of agent,'' he said.
The incident occurred ``a couple of days ago,'' he said.
The Iraqi Survey Group is a U.S. organization whose task was to search for weapons of mass destruction after Saddam's ouster.
The round was an old `binary-type' shell in which two chemicals held in separate sections are mixed after firing to produce sarin, Kimmitt said.
He said he believed that insurgents who rigged the artillery shell as a bomb didn't know it contained the nerve agent, and that the dispersal of the nerve agent from such a rigged device was very limited.
``The former regime had declared all such rounds destroyed before the 1991 Gulf War,'' Kimmitt said. Two members of a military bomb squad were treated for minor exposure to nerve agent, but none was injured.
It was unclear if the sarin shell was from chemical rounds that the United Nations had tagged and marked for destruction before the U.S. invasion.
Prior to the war, U.N. inspectors had compiled a short list of proscribed items found during hundreds of surprise inspections: fewer than 20 old, empty chemical warheads for battlefield rockets, and a dozen artillery shells filled with mustard gas. The shells had been tagged by U.N. inspectors in the 1990s but somehow not destroyed by them.
In 1995, Japan's Aum Shinrikyo cult unleashed sarin gas in Tokyo's subways, killing 12 people and sickening thousands. In February of this year, Japanese courts convicted the cult's former leader, Shoko Asahara, and sentence him to be executed.
Developed in the mid-1930s by Nazi scientists, a single drop of sarin can cause quick, agonizing choking death. There are no known instances of the Nazis actually using the gas.
Nerve gases work by inhibiting key enzymes in the nervous system, blocking their transmission. Small exposures can be treated with antidotes, if administered quickly.
Antidotes to nerve gases similar to sarin are so effective that top poison gas researchers predict they eventually will cease to be a war threat.
The Bush administration cited allegations that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction as a main reason for launching the war in Iraq last year, but no evidence of such weapons has been found.
Since the war ended, the U.S.-led coalition has found several caches that tested positive for mustard gas but later turned out to contain missile fuel or other chemicals.
In January, troops discovered 36 mortar rounds believed to hold a blister agent, but later tests showed there was no such chemical inside.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Iraq-Sarin.html |
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CyberShy
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Delft, The Netherlands
Mar 1999
time: 06:36
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Repost:
Iraque has anything to do with the war on terror.
- why is OBL mad at the USA? because they have troops in the holy land (SA)
- why were there troups in SA? To make sure that Sadam wouldn't try to attack on or another country
- *if* Sadam did indeed remove his WMD, he most obviously did it b/c of those troops
- but since these troops really really made much muslims unhappy, something must happen. Either Sadam should prove that he was to be trusted, so the troops could go home, or he should be gone.
A didn't work, and wouldn't work in any time in any year soon, thus B must happen.
Sadam must be removed. Pherhaps he had no WMD indeed, but who dares to take the risk to leave someone has lunatic as Sadam in a country that might have WMD?
Sadam is the only one who USED WMD in recent history!
NK didn't, Libya didn't, Iran didn't.......... only Sadam used weapons.
And he didn't use them for a long time, because of the american troops in SA.
And those troops were causing 9/11.
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Cybershy: In case you haven't found out all ready, Sarin only lasts for five years. It can hardly have been some from Saddam's old stock. |
I can say much more about this, but I think it's better to wait before we know more. Pherhaps it wasn't sarin at all, and my words are old before they left my mouth.
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